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08.26.2008 11:05 pm

What?! No #@%**!! daily TV listings?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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I’ve talked to a lot of people and answered a lot of e-mails in the last two days about the elimination of the daily TV listings. Yes, my ears are ringing. Most people understand that it wasn’t my decision (it wasn’t, and I’m sad about it), but they’re frustrated and angry over the loss of a feature they’ve counted on for years. And hey, I looked at those grids every day too, just to make sure I hadn’t forgotten something I needed to watch that night.

The simple reason for the change is that the economy is bad, many businesses, including newspapers, are suffering, and the price of newsprint is soaring. As editor Arnie Robbins explained in notes to readers, many of the changes were intended to save newsprint — the TV listings alone took up almost a full page a day.

Printed TV listings are, I fear, a dinosaur. Fewer and fewer people use them, relying instead on interactive on-screen guides, customizable online listings or the old click-around method. The Post-Dispatch weekly TV magazine, which may have been on your coffee table as long as you can remember, has been cut way back and is now included only in papers delivered to subscribers. Even the iconic TV Guide magazine, which sells for $3.99 a week, has comparatively few listings these days.

If you’re reading this, there’s a good chance you’re not one of the people who still makes much use of printed listings.  For people who do still count on them, I can only recommend saving and using the PDtv guide from the Sunday paper and consulting my TV Picks in the daily Everyday pullout, which I’ll try to make as comprehensive as possible. If you have cable, check the TV Guide Channel; with digital cable or satellite, use its built-in guide.

And if you have computer access — and many of the complaints I got came by e-mail, so I know you folks have computers — I do suggest trying the listings on STLtoday.com. They are really very good, and not that hard to set up; they give you everything you need and more, and you can even print them out. Here’s where to go.

The TV page at STLtoday (click on the highlighted words to go directly there) is your first stop. In addition to my TV Picks and a link to new posts on Tube Talk, you’ll find a link to the TV Grid. Once you click through and set them up by entering your location, by ZIP code, you’ll get listings for your local channels. (If you don’t set the listings up, you won’t get all the info.) Click on a show title and get a description of the episode — and in many cases a list of upcoming episodes. Go forward in time, by hour or day, as far as two weeks. Set preferences to see only your favorite channels. Print the grid out, if you want to, and put it on the coffee table.

By the way, we’re improving the TV page every day, including adding the full day’s talk show listings, beginning with the morning shows and going straight through to midnight. So bookmark it and check back regularly.

Some people have also complained to me that there’s no place online to vent. Feel free to make use of this post by adding comments (watch your $#&! language, though). But phone comments are being compiled to gauge reader reaction, so please also call. The number is 314-340-8966. You can opt to leave a message or speak to someone; you can also e-mail comments@post-dispatch.com.

  

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Is “sucks” a bad word?

Anyways, I’m not fond of the Post-Dispatch’s recent changes; it was kind of the last straw. My personal economy is bad too, so I’m cutting back to weekends only.

— Marty
7:12 am August 27th, 2008

The daily TV schedule was one of the few reasons I still keep my daily home delivery of the Post-Dispatch. Most of the other news I get on-line. Please bring back the TV schedule or you will have one less subscriber.

— Charlie
8:16 am August 27th, 2008

I love the P-D’s business plan. Costs are high and revenue low, so cut out features that readers really want but are expensive (i.e. tv listings, comics, and real, hard-hitting local news). Watch subscriptions plummet, which in turn reduces ad revenue, leading to more cuts. The quality of the Post-Dispatch has deteriorated severely since its glory years, and there is very little reason to read it anymore.

— Don
8:36 am August 27th, 2008

If the PD wasn’t throwing away money by tossing that Journal garbage on everyones lawn three times a week, they could afford to print the TV listing. Get rid of the Journals and work on making the PD a real newspaper again.

— jfmoyn
8:37 am August 27th, 2008

jfmoyn,
You hit the nail on the head, get rid of that waste of paper/newsprint the suburban journals and bring back a truly metropolitan newspaper.
I cut back to the Sunday only paper years ago.
I use to really enjoy the Sunday paper, there was a least a good hour to hour and half of good informative stories, now I can get through the Sunday paper in 15-20 minutes. THERE IS NOTHING IN IT, the business section is a JOKE, mostly syndicated articles and they beat the same story to death. I guarantee you there will be ANOTHER article this week on how to handle your 401K. I can’t beleive in a metro area of 2.5+ million people there are not local articles that can be written about local business(es).
The ONLY reason I still subscribe is because of the sports section, if they start wacking that I will become an ex-subscriber.
I suspected all along that once the Pulitzer family sold the new owners would only be interested in profit and not journalism or bringing news to the community.

— kdunlap
8:53 am August 27th, 2008

I have never responded to any blogs but because of my frustration with the elimination of the TV listings I felt compelled enough to share in the discourse. I agree with the comments about the Journal elimination versus removing the TV listings or any other parts of the paper. Did the Post do a survey of what elements are of no interest to the readers prior to this knee jerk reaction? Please reevaluate this decision.

— Tom
9:14 am August 27th, 2008

Everyone’s watching their pennies now-a-days. One of the ONLY reasons that I kept my subscription to the Post was for the TV listings. Now I quess I can save more. Thanks for nothing…

— LA Menard
9:19 am August 27th, 2008

Usually, I am not a blog poster either. However, elimination of the TV listings is not a good idea. Everyone will not hop online just to check TV listings. Also, not everyone pays for cable/satellite TV, though the implication always seems to be that nearly everyone does.

— wave777
9:29 am August 27th, 2008

So, while everyone was crabbing about TV listings being gone, I went to
http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?aid=z9g and viewed TV listings.

Actually, this may have an unintended benefit - maybe instead of reading TV listings, people will read books instead.

The best point made so far - get rid of the Suburban Journals and actually hire some folks to beef up the Metro section.

A. Friend

— racerxfile
9:50 am August 27th, 2008

Yes, eliminating the listings is despicable. Not everyone has a computer;
I use my neighbor’s or the pubic library. Having to print out a listing
is just too much of an imposition. We over-the-air viewers have been
discriminated against repeatedly by actions like this and the whole
DTV-conversion fiasco. (Did you know that the Florida emergency-services
have petitioned to stop the DTV conversion because eliminating analog
TV destroys the emergency-notification service of analog TV stations,
since digital TV doesn’t work in severe weather or on small portable
battery-operated TVs? Why haven’t we here in the tornado belt done the same?)

— wgmartin
9:54 am August 27th, 2008

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