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I-64 Live
Dan Galvin of Gateway Constructors and Linda Wilson of MoDOT will field questions about Highway 40 reconstruction for an hour each Wednesday at 2 p.m.
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 02:00 PM CDT
dweebe: Is there anyway to put a stoplight for the northbound Kingshighway to eastbound I-64 ramp? The yield sign simply isn't working for when traffic from southbound Kingshighway is getting onto eastbound I-64.

On a related note: is there any possibility of putting traffic post/cones for the rightmost lane of Kingshighway for the merge onto the ramp for I-64? (Kind of like you have on Brentwood by the Brentwood Prominade for getting onto northbound I-170?)

What happens is that there are two left turn lanes and one right turn lane from eastbound Oakland.
• Lane #1 should ideally only be used for cars going from eastbound Oakland to northbound Kingshighway.
• Lane #2 should be the lane used if you're getting onto eastbound I-64.
• Lane #3 is for a right turn to southbound Kingshighway.

What's happening is people get into the shorter line for Lane #1 and then dangerously merge across 2 or 3 lanes in a short distance to get onto eastbound I-64.
Dan Galvin and Linda Wilson: Thanks for the note. We are aware of what is happening at Kingshighway and the eastbound I-64 on ramp. Dan and I and a couple of our engineers watched the traffic on that ramp the other day. We are considering more yield signs or construction warning signs, but we are not planning a stoplight for the northbound to eastbound ramp. Drivers on that ramp are supposed to yield to the drivers who have the green left turn light. The predominant thing we noticed is how fast drivers are starting from Kingshighway and then they are having to slow down to get through the work zone. This ramp is a work zone and will be for a while still. Motorists need to take the entire length of the ramp slower and they need to obey the merge signs. It is difficult to help traffic flow when you have motorists who are breaking the law or driving too aggressively or impatiently.

We will have to look at the Oakland situation you are describing. I doubt that we will be able to prevent the move you are describing with the cones, called delineators. It is tough to do as you cross an intersection like that. I'll have the engineers watch it and see if there is anything we can do. Again, it is more aggressive driving going on.

Linda Wilson

subhoofer: Their are new pavement markings painted at the Lindell intersection in front of the Missouri History Museum in Forest Park that show two through lanes heading south into the Park. Their is only space on the other side of Lindell for one lane going into the Park. There is a sign at the intersection that says "Right Lane Must Turn Right." Drivers are confused. Who can help us stop all the honking?
Dan Galvin and Linda Wilson: I will ask the City what is going on there. I'm not familiar with this new change. I'll see what they can do to make this more clear.

Linda Wilson

Bill: I have been looking at the Hanley Road webcam and noticed four sets of pilings going in. Are my eyes playing tricks on me or is it because the bridge is longer than the other ones?
Dan Galvin and Linda Wilson: What you are seeing on the south side of the bridge are the abutments for the "jug handle" crossing that will take traffic from northbound Hanley under Hanley Road to go westbound on Eager Road, and vice versa. So there is an extra bridge there.

Dan

susan: 2 questions about the McKnight exit from EB I-64:

1. Are drivers turning right onto McKnight from the EB I-64 exit required to stop at the stop sign when the traffic light for the exit is green? This is causing a lot of confusion - some drivers stop on the green, some don't -and the hesitation/stopping adds to an evening rush backup, sometimes all the way down the exit. It seems like it would be more efficient (and more in sync with everything else that's been updated as part of the project) to install a right-arrow signal there in alignment with the other traffic light. Many other intersections use this system (turning right from Lackland onto Craig/Wesport Plaza, for example). Any chance of someone looking into this? Is it Brentwood's jurisdiction?

2. The sight line when exiting right onto McKnight from I-64 EB if very bad - looking left, you almost have to be out into the intersection to see what's coming.

Thanks for the chats!
Dan Galvin and Linda Wilson: Yes. Drivers going eastbound I-64 to southbound McKnight are required to stop at the stop sign all the time. The traffic light is for the left turning traffic. There is a signal in the island and we will be removing that asap to avoid the confusion. The southbound traffic is required to stop so that it will provide gaps in the traffic on McKnight and allow people at the three-way stop at McKnight and York Drive to be able to turn out. McKnight is owned by the County and Brentwood and MoDOT has worked with them on this.

The sight line is also why there is a stop sign. Motorists are supposed to stop and look and then proceed right onto southbound McKnight.

Linda Wilson

raadjam: Two things about Brentwood/I-64:

Is it possible to have a blinking yellow arrow for NB traffic to go west on I-64? esp. at night when it is a long wait when no other cars are coming...

Also, the west abutment wall really creates a dangerous blind spot for cars turing nb on Brentwood. If a car runs the SB red light its going to be nasty since the stop lines are so close to each other. Maybe make a longer all red?
Thanks.
Dan Galvin and Linda Wilson: The signals on Brentwood are actuated and interconnected so we do not have blinking yellow. This means that each signalized intersection has detectors that identify that there are cars waiting for the signal. That is called actuated. Each signalized intersection is also connected to all the other intersections on Brentwood so the lights can be better timed and coordinated together. Brentwood is a St. Louis County street and MoDOT is only involved at the on and off ramps. I will ask the engineers to check the timing at night, but you may still have to experience some waiting time.

All signalized intersections have an all red couple of seconds to help with bad drivers who run red lights. If you have someone blatantly running a red many seconds late, an all red is not going to help that small occurrence.


Linda Wilson