Join columnist Jeff Gordon for a live chat from 1-2 p.m. Monday about the Cards, Rams, Blues, Mizzou or whatever sport or team is on your mind.
Monday, August 11, 2008 01:00 PM CDT
Anthony: Gordo'
TLR says Perez can't be the closer until he proves he can pitch . . . How about until Izzy and Franklin prove they CAN'T pitch? Because, in case he hasn't noticed, that happened a couple of months ago. Nothing against Franklin, he's a nice role pitcher but his role should not be closer. And Izzy . . . he's done.
How can TLR keep fiddling while the Cards burn? If he's still stewing about not getting anything by the trade deadline, he needs to get over it and find something that works.
Jeff Gordon: Given Carpenter's triceps strain, the Wainwright-to-the-closer role may not happen. Adam may be needed for the rotation, which could keep Perez in the closer mix. Chris got beat up during his last stint with the Cards, once hitters got a read on him. His stats deteriorated before he went back to Memphis. As good as he looked while earning his first career save, you have to be mindful of that.
Bronco: Jeff, I am a transplanted Cardinal Fan, lived in St.Louis for 36 years and have been a Cardinal Fan for as long as I can remember. The last 8 years away from STL and missing the games has been tough. Thank God for Direct TV and being able to see most of the games. 2006 was special and Jim Edmonds was a huge part of why the Cards won in 06. I have been a big fan of his since he came to STL and even understood why he had to try to distance himself from the Cards this year while playing for the hated Cubs what with all the media in Chicago. However after today I am not so much a Jim Edmonds fan anymore!! The first home run, flipping his bat at the Cards dugout and staring into the dugout just isn't cool but one can almost forgive that as he and Don Tony don't always get along. However for Jim to say to a couple of broadcasters who have done nothing to him and even defended him on occasion that he is DONE WITH STL TV AND RADIO AND DONE WITH THE CARDINALS is not something that the fans or community should ever forget he said. Brett Favre's leaving from Green Bay was much harsher than Edmonds from STL and Favre in front of the all that Media said he would always be a PACKER forever but he was a Jet now and was going to try to help them win. Edmonds needs to learn that you don't have to burn your relationship with the Fans just because you are MAD at the Mangaer or Coach. Well I say since He is done with STL then it is time for STL to be done with him,to h_ _ _ with Jim Edmonds, he wants to be a Cub so bad and thinks that they are the greatest!!! fine so be it. Dont CHEER him when he comes back but more importantly DON'T BOO him when he comes back,that will only tell him we still care. IGNORE him when he comes back and it will drive him nuts, JE loves the spotlight and attention, he craves it, Deny him it and he will be lost. Oh and his restaurant can't be that good can it? sorry to be so negative but it just irritated me to no end to hear that he said he was done with STL and being a Cardinal.
So to Jim Edmonds I would say enjoy the rest of the year in Chicago and have your fun because you destroyed your relationship with STL for 3/4 of a season in Chicago and when next year you aren't there anymore what will you do then? Don't come crawling back to STL for you are done with STL.
Jeff Gordon: Well, Jimmy Ballgame can be a bit overwrought with everything he does -- catching fly balls, striking out, hitting homers and, yes, dealing with his current or former bosses. That is just Jimmy being Jimmy. It's great theater. But Cards fans should remember that he is just going over the top to be a Cub, just as he over the top with everything else he does.
Rob: Gordo,
Jim Edmonds and Brett Favre how different can two men who were beloved by their fans be?
Brett Favre leaving Green Bay and going to the Jets had to be a very tough thing for Brett to do and hard on the fans of GB. It was about as ugly and nasty a divorce as there could be between an organization and their best player but at least Brett let the GB fans know that he still loved them and would miss them saying that he was still a Green Bay Packer and always would be. I am sure that while not soothing the pain for the fans it made them feel a little better.
Jim Edmonds needs to learn some of this from Brett, Edmonds day today VS the Cards in Chicago was ridiculous, flipping his bat and scowling into the dugout, ok I can understand that, that is just Edmonds being the showboat that he is and telling Tony to stick it. What I have a problem with is the I am done with the media in St.Louis and done being a Cardinal..WHAT? Hey Jimmy being a Cardinal made you what you are today, you came into your own as a Cardinal, became a huge star here, the fans loved you and so did the city. Before you came here yes you were known for great catches but also known to be hurt all the time and an underperformer. You came to St.Louis and we embraced you, your style and your ego. We defended your showboating and even aplauded it and I was still doing that even with you being a CUB because YOU WERE A CARDINAL, a great Cardinal and always would be.
Well thanks for straightening me out JIM, thanks for telling me I was wrong, thanks for setting the record straight and thanks for no class at all, but mostly, thanks for letting me go back to just hating the CUBS completely and not feeling guilty about rooting for a CUB. Good luck to you JIM in your 1/2 season as a CUB,I hope that 1/2 season with them was worth blowing 8 with us. The funny thing is Jim, next year you probably won't even be a CUB and then what will you be left with? Certianly not a realtionship with the fans of the Cardinals as Bob, Stan,Ozzie and many others have. JIM, unlike Brett Favre YOU are a TRAITOR for in your own words you are done being a Cardinal, you are a CUB now and we are done with you!!
Jeff Gordon: Come, he's not a traitor. The Cards got rid of him. He didn't leave. So why wouldn't he want to come back at them a little bit? Most players would have played this more smartly, but Jimmy Ballgame has a knack for ruffling feathers. This is a guy who so irritated the Padres this spring that they couldn't wait to get rid of him -- even though they needed him desperately.
WIRAMFAN: Well it's just one pre-season game and the Rams under Linehan are already in mid-season form! No inside defense, no offensive threats, Berlin looks to be the best but he'll probably get let go. Wow does anyone really think this guy can turn this team around? Honestly. Linehan is soooo far out of his league!! And Steven Jackson is just the first Rat to jump from this sinking ship!
Jeff Gordon: IF Berlin plays like that, he'll win the No. 3 job. Linehan is comfortable with him. As for the rest of the performance -- yikes! At least the kicking game was good.
drelboc: Hey Gordo;
Looking at the Brewers August schedule compared to the Cards, it appears the Brew Crew have a great opportunity to make a big move in the standings for that wild card if not the NL CENTRAL itself given the Cubs tough September schedule. If the Cards injured peices can come back and be good, do you think they can over come the odds (that the schedule seems to favor) and get into the big dance in October?
Jeff, I am always very grateful to get your feedback. THANK YOU!
Jeff Gordon: The Cards will need to make a big, big push to stay alive. And if Carpenter really IS hurt, I don't know where that push will come from. Maybe Ankiel's return could help. The Cards will benefit more than most teams from the September call-up, since they have about eight guys in Memphis right now capable of helping. But it is tough to be optimistic with how this is trending.