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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 19:37 pm
[quote="RedbirdFan18Hey, fattreap, would you rather pay for the roadbumps that wouldn't do any harm to people if they were smart and actually wore their seatbelt, or pay for police overtime so they can stop the growing crime rate in and around St.Louis, espicially shootings? Why take away money from people that stop shootings, murders, robbery, and drug dealing just so that you don't bounce around in your car when you hit a road bump because you don't Use your seatbelt. By the way, you meaning 350 pounds doesn't mean Exclamation. The force of the car against you is greater than your weight against it, so you'd still be flying through the windshield and, since you are larger than the average person, you'd have more momentum flying through the air causing more harm to the person in the other car and making you fly farther and at a faster rate. Somebody didn't take science class in highschool.[/quote]

You are obviously an ignorant moron. I shouldn't even respond to your comments but I can't resist such stupidity. First of all, I made straight A's in college physics and I understand projectiles and an object with a larger mass has more force than a smaller object. The thing you are obviously missing is how can I fly through the windshield when I am too large to even get around the steering wheel? You obviously didn't do too well in Kindergarten if you think a large object will fit in a small hole. BTW, I am more worried about the damage speedbumps do to my car than me. Also, I live in rural Illinois where there is a shooting maybe once every 5 years. The overtime in my area goes to stuff like extra patrols for seat belt violations. They publish that information in the newspaper every month so don't tell me it's not true. If it's not, then the media is lying to me (that's a shocker!).
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 19:40 pm
[quote="RedbirdFan18]
Fattreap, are you that stupid? The seatbelt law IS TO PROTECT YOU![/quote]

Like I said before, I am not arguing about the safety of wearing a seatbelt. I am arguing about making it a crime not to wear a seatbelt. Again, you are obviously missing the point and you are showing the world your lack of intelligence since you didn't comprehend that.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 19:57 pm

RedbirdFan18 wrote

fatreap70 wrote

I am also against most drug laws also. I haven't smoked "weed" in over 15 years, but I think that it should not be illegal to do so in a safe setting.

If someone smokes a joint to relax after work, they can go to prison for a petty offense in this situation.

If you want to argue laundry soap doesn't hurt like drugs do, although it does harm the environment, substitute sodas or cheeseburgers for laundry soap. Let me hear how cheeseburgers are better for you than marajuana. Please.


Well, Marajuana impairs your senses making it easier for you to crash in your car and hurt someone, you can become adidicted and drop out of school or not go to your job because you want to go smoke, and countless other things. Your reference to Laundry Soap is just stupid. laundry Soap doesn't harm you, Marajuana does. You can harm other people while under the influence of it, no matter how much you've smoked [unlike alcohol, which is safe in certain amounts }


I almost can't stop laughing at this one! You are such a robot! The reference to laundry soap was supposed to be stupid! I guess you aren't smart enough to get that. BTW, laundry soap is a man made substance that does more harm to the environment than a plant. And if you would've read my comment, you would've seen that I said "in a safe setting" which is not while driving a car, just like alcohol. You also say that marajuana makes you not want to go to your job because you have to smoke it and cannot. I know a lot of people that smoke marajuana and work harder than a lot of people who don't. The ones who don't want to go to work are just lazy people anyway. It has little to do with marajuana. Marajuana is just a byproduct of laziness that these people would have anyway and :!: like you just want to blame the drug, not the person.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2009 20:17 pm
[quote="RedbirdFan18] Oh! this clears up so much! Now I know that your so stupid because you spent time doing drugs, not going to school. That's another reason that 'weed' is illegal. Kids don't go to school, or, if they do, they don't pay attention, so they all end up like you, stupid, or worse, died, because they got into gangs and violence through 'weed' and then got killed by that violence.[/quote]

Again, I can't stop lauging! Example, you call ME stupid and "your", or is it "you're", grammer is terrible! Just so you know, I only missed 4 days in 4 years of high school and did not smoke anything then. I also have a Bachelor's degree. But enough about that. You again blame a plant for a social problem. There would be very little violence and gang activity if all drugs were legalized. The reason for the violence is BECAUSE DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL, not because of the drug itself or the effect that it has on a person. In fact, I don't recall hearing too many cases of domestic violence even due to "weed", but hear it about alcohol all the time. I don't know for sure, but I get the feeling that you haven't even ever smoked marajuana which means you are just making ignorant comments regarding marajuana. I said I don't mind a good argument here, but your comments have no place here so please just go away.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 12:14 pm
Why don't you just wear your seatbelt? Seems like a big stink about an insignificant issue.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 12:54 pm
I DO wear my seatbelt usually. I wear it when I am travelling at high speeds because yes this is a time when you need to wear them because most injury and death occur at high speeds. I usually don't when I am piddling around town at 25 MPH. I drive very cautiously, yielding at every intersection there are no stop signs, stopping (not rolling) at stop signs, and yielding when a car approaches an intersection where they have to stop just in case they blow a stop sign. I am a very safe driver and do not have fear when I drive because of it. I don't like feeling like a criminal because I am not causing anyone any harm by getting in my car and driving 5 blocks at 25 MPH maxiumum. Police shouldn't have to waste their time on stupid laws like this when they can go after speeders, tailgaters, i.e. people who do not drive safe. So yes it is a significant issue to me and other people who get ticketed for this "crime". In my opinion, the main reason for the law is because it benefits the government financially and this is wrong. We the people need to take a stand against what is wrong before things get worse. Are all of you people who are arguing against me happy with every law that is on the books no matter how big or small? Hasn't our country gone full circle from where it was 230 years ago when our forefathers fought for freedom from the extreme government rule of England? I believe we are in the same situation then as we are now, and it will only get worse if we the people don't fight back and preserve the freedoms that we deserve. So if you all want to sit back and watch other countries pass us by, then go ahead, but I am too proud of an American to let that happen.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 15:19 pm
It's your decision not to wear a seat belt but then don't cry when you get a ticket. How had is it to buckle your seat belt? What does it take, 5 seconds?

If that's the biggest issue you can find to take a stand on you must have a great life.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 16:46 pm
Just wondering what issues you take a stand on? I have plenty of other issues I take a stand on in my blog. Besides, it's not just about wearing a seat belt, it's about freedoms that are taken away from us. If you want to be a Nazi or support them, then go move to 1940s Germany you backwards freak. I want my country back and this is a great example of our rights being taken away. Apparently, you are too stupid to get it.
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Posted: 07 Nov 2009 12:14 pm

fatreap70 wrote

Just wondering what issues you take a stand on? I have plenty of other issues I take a stand on in my blog. Besides, it's not just about wearing a seat belt, it's about freedoms that are taken away from us. If you want to be a Nazi or support them, then go move to 1940s Germany you backwards freak. I want my country back and this is a great example of our rights being taken away. Apparently, you are too stupid to get it.



Seatbelt laws, red light cameras, smoking bans and the support they get, are all signs of Americas deteriorating greatness.
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Posted: 07 Nov 2009 20:37 pm
Right on RaulDuke! They are indeed! A lot of the things that made the United States great, that made other countries jealous of us, that made terrorists want to attack us, are slowly disappearing. Maybe our government want it's people to be less great and on the same level as the rest of the world. You can tell by some of the comments here that it's working. These people must love globalization. Actually some of these people are probably too stupid to understand what is going on in this regards. Just shut up and watch your TV some of you that have commented here. You are making me dumber reading your comments.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2009 08:27 am
I finally got enough nerve to tell why I am so against this law. I was driving around a curve in town at maybe 15 MPH and my bottled water fell from the drink tray. It then rolled under my brake pedal. A block after this curve is a stop sign. I hit the brake and it wouldn't press due to the bottle being under it. I had time to reach down to get the bottle out, but I couldn't because the seat belt locked not allowing me to move. I ended up slamming into the back of a car with a young girl in the backseat who was buckled in. She ended up smacking her head on the door which caused internal bleeding. She was in the hospital for 37 days and nearly died. I have to live with this and some days can be hard, especially when I am out driving. That's why I am a safe driver who now takes extra caution. The police in my town know about this and I told them that there is no way I can wear my seatbelt in town and they all apparently understand because they leave me alone. State troopers are a different story though. When they pull over people for doing nothing wrong other than not wearing a seatbelt, aka seatbelt enforcement, this is just wrong because somebody just might have a good reason not to wear one.
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