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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 07 Nov 2009 23:36 pm
It would be nice if Boyes, Winchester and Colaiacovo (and maybe a 2nd rounder) could be traded for a reliable goal scorer (with an all-around game). Eller and Pietrangelo need to stay up. It might be nice if Junland came up, as well.
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 07 Nov 2009 23:39 pm
Worst player ive ever seen! JD PPPPlease send this fluke back.
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 07 Nov 2009 23:48 pm
Luv me some Eller. Our new Courts but with more moves?

All ahead full, ramming speed. Brace for collision.

Sneak preview if JD does send Lars back. It'll be on like the Korean Parliement


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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 07 Nov 2009 23:51 pm
Agreed that the Blues need to find a way to keep Eller but you can't just release players.

Also, the only players on two-way contracts are Oshie, Bergy, Perron, Eller, EJ and Petro.

If the Blues are to keep Eller, my guess is they'd just scratch Janssen most likely. That way they wouldn't need to double shift Oshie - just put McDonald on Backes' line when he's ready to return.
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 00:42 am
Eller is on the emergency recall. This means either,

A. When McDonald is ready to return, he must be sent back to Peoria.
B. He can be swapped with a current player on the roster. This means Eller is named as a permanent roster player and the other player, (Winchester?) Has to go through waivers (if they are not eligible just to be sent down).

I could see the Blues sending Eller down, and then recalling him back to the roster, but waiving Winchester and trying to get him to Peoria or making a trade (forward + forward + defensemen for forward of higher caliber).
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 01:54 am
Lars Eller has made a huge impact to this teams' offensive depth. If you add McDonald, there might not be a very large need for a scorer anymore judging the way the blues like to "build from within". The only reasons I say this is because they would have to take away from there current roster to add that player. I'm also talking in terms of when Steen returns to the lineup as well. This also, however, may force a trade if Eller remains up here.

What the Blues could do is this:

1. Send Winchester/Weaver through Waivers.

2. Make a blockbuster trade. (This would have to include a scorer/enforcer, a defense package and some pick(s)).

Personally I would like the second option and see them go after an Eric Staal or Ilya Kovalchuk or someone of that caliber but that may not happen.

This kind of trade would have to be something like:
Winchester, Boyes, Colaiacovo, Draft Pick.

I don't want to see Boyes go if he doesn't have to go because he's relatively cheap considering how many points he puts up per year.
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 02:49 am

dtkblueshockey wrote

Lars Eller has made a huge impact to this teams' offensive depth. If you add McDonald, there might not be a very large need for a scorer anymore judging the way the blues like to "build from within". The only reasons I say this is because they would have to take away from there current roster to add that player. I'm also talking in terms of when Steen returns to the lineup as well. This also, however, may force a trade if Eller remains up here.

What the Blues could do is this:

1. Send Winchester/Weaver through Waivers.

2. Make a blockbuster trade. (This would have to include a scorer/enforcer, a defense package and some pick(s)).

Personally I would like the second option and see them go after an Eric Staal or Ilya Kovalchuk or someone of that caliber but that may not happen.

This kind of trade would have to be something like:
Winchester, Boyes, Colaiacovo, Draft Pick.

I don't want to see Boyes go if he doesn't have to go because he's relatively cheap considering how many points he puts up per year.


I'd LOVE to see Boyes, Winchester, Colaiacovo and a draft pick (2nd?) traded for Kovalchuk (if he signs a long-termextension first). Boyes is a limited (one-dimensional and streaky player). Kovalchuk's production would more-than compensate, and he brings a much better all-around game, and more scoring stability to The Blues. And he'd help the shootout game more. The trade would make room for Eller, Pietrangelo, and allow a bit of room for Junland, in the case of future injury.
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 03:10 am

Robb_K wrote

dtkblueshockey wrote

Lars Eller has made a huge impact to this teams' offensive depth. If you add McDonald, there might not be a very large need for a scorer anymore judging the way the blues like to "build from within". The only reasons I say this is because they would have to take away from there current roster to add that player. I'm also talking in terms of when Steen returns to the lineup as well. This also, however, may force a trade if Eller remains up here.

What the Blues could do is this:

1. Send Winchester/Weaver through Waivers.

2. Make a blockbuster trade. (This would have to include a scorer/enforcer, a defense package and some pick(s)).

Personally I would like the second option and see them go after an Eric Staal or Ilya Kovalchuk or someone of that caliber but that may not happen.

This kind of trade would have to be something like:
Winchester, Boyes, Colaiacovo, Draft Pick.

I don't want to see Boyes go if he doesn't have to go because he's relatively cheap considering how many points he puts up per year.


I'd LOVE to see Boyes, Winchester, Colaiacovo and a draft pick (2nd?) traded for Kovalchuk (if he signs a long-termextension first). Boyes is a limited (one-dimensional and streaky player). Kovalchuk's production would more-than compensate, and he brings a much better all-around game, and more scoring stability to The Blues. And he'd help the shootout game more. The trade would make room for Eller, Pietrangelo, and allow a bit of room for Junland, in the case of future injury.


That may sound nice in forum talk, but what happens when Kovy doesn't like Murrays system and bolts for Russia. From everything i've read, it seems as thould Kovalchuk has pretty much come out and said it's going to be Atlanta or Russia. Just because he signed an extension doesn't mean he would stay here. That is my main concern with Kovalchuk.

Boyes is streaky. Why not give him some time to get it together. Him and Kariya play great together and both of them are in a funk right now. I really don't see it lasting all season.

As far as Eller, he has to stay. He line of Eller, Oshie, and Bergy has looked great. Bergy seems really comfortable playing with him as well. Bergy projects to be a top line center and we need to get him going and make sure he fulfills his potential. He has said before, as have some of the other youngsters, that they are hesitant when they play with the veterans. So keep Eller up and lets see what happens.

As of now, nobody has to go for him to stay once McDonald is back. Cammer can go back to the pressbox, switching with Winchester or possibly Eller when he needs a night off or is struggling (which is bound to happen during such a long season). When Steen comes back is when we would have to make a move, or King. But I see Steen as more important than King.

McDonald-Backes-Perron
Eller-Bergy-Oshie
Kariya-Walt-Boyes
Steen-McClemment-Crombeen

Petro stays as well and we go with...
EJ/Jax
Brew/Polak
Cola/Petro/Sydor/Weaver...one of Weaver or Sydor will prolly be waived if they cannot be traded.

I remember just a few months ago people were ready to trade Eller and Petro plus 1st rounders and other prospects like Junland (who is doing great in Peoria) for Prongs. I'm so happy JD and Co. are patient with this thing. It is going to be so much fun watching these kids grow up playing in front of us!! They have all shown flashes of the skill they possess and once they put it together on a consistent basis...watch out NHL!!
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 05:32 am

dtkblueshockey wrote

Lars Eller has made a huge impact to this teams' offensive depth. If you add McDonald, there might not be a very large need for a scorer anymore judging the way the blues like to "build from within". The only reasons I say this is because they would have to take away from there current roster to add that player. I'm also talking in terms of when Steen returns to the lineup as well. This also, however, may force a trade if Eller remains up here.

What the Blues could do is this:

1. Send Winchester/Weaver through Waivers.

2. Make a blockbuster trade. (This would have to include a scorer/enforcer, a defense package and some pick(s)).

Personally I would like the second option and see them go after an Eric Staal or Ilya Kovalchuk or someone of that caliber but that may not happen.

This kind of trade would have to be something like:
Winchester, Boyes, Colaiacovo, Draft Pick.

I don't want to see Boyes go if he doesn't have to go because he's relatively cheap considering how many points he puts up per year.


I am not against a trade like this, but that doesn't get it done for Kovalchuk. Winchester has almost no value, Cola has pretty little value, and it's not a secret that Boyes is one-dimensional.

It's been discussed a ton, but i'd say send Boyes+Winchester to Pitt for Staal. Move Backes back to wing and go with Staal and Berglund as top 2 centers. Boyes will never produce here what he would in Pitt and Jordan gets the chance he won't ever get in Pitt. Plus now Eller has a spot.

Eller-Berglund-Kariya
McDonald-Staal-Backes/Perron
Oshie-Tkachuk-Perron/Backes
Steen-McClement-Crombeen
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Post subject: Re: J.D., if you send Eller back...we riot!
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 06:32 am
I missed the Eller debut and hear he was solid. Obviously got the goal but I saw the highlight. It went off his arm. Not to take away from it, he went right to the front of the net.

Tonight's game I saw. IMO he was the best player on the ice from either team. Kid is fearless, smart and skilled. If they send him down I'll riot with the rest of you... I'll neutralize Louie.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 07:39 am

txbluesfan44 wrote

Coins wrote

BarnBurner wrote

No need to release anybody.
Just have Cam break Boyes jaw.


Boyes should have been pulled from the PP instead of PK.


Im thinking its Boyes turn to play on the stopper line. Kariya played his best game in recent memory tonight and Boyes could use a similar lift (although Im hopeful his SO goal will lift him off the mat)


Boyes on the stopper line hmm?????
Isn't the idea behind a stopper line to stop the other team not help them score lol. Just saying.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 07:53 am
I'd say it's a given that Lars gets sent back to Peoria. I don't think the management would risk losing an asset when they don't have to (even Winnie). All Eller has to do is wait for a trade to be made, or the inevitable injury to clear a roster spot.

BTW, I agree with everyone else that he has sparked the team. Kid has some good skills AND cajones. I can't wait until he is a permenant fixture with the Blues. It's just safe to send him down for now.
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