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Post subject: End of the Myth: PAC-10 Football is stronger then SEC
Posted: 29 Oct 2009 17:22 pm
At least according to two polls that are components of the BCS Computer Rankings. It's mostly because of the strength of opponents. SEC plays wimps, PAC 10 does not.

Anderson Sports
1. PAC 10
2. SEC
3. Big East
4. Big 12
5. Big 10

Sagarin
1. PAC 10
2. SEC
3. Atlantic Coast
4. Big East
5. Big 10

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 17:40 pm
sagarin's rankings are just silly
the ACC is terrible
that alone, and the lack of big 12, invalidate him

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Post subject: Re: End of the Myth: PAC-10 Football is stronger then SEC
Posted: 29 Oct 2009 18:18 pm
Sagarin is the worst computer system by far. Even the RPI which uses FCS schools in their rankings is better than Sagarin.

In '07 West Virginia played 8 bowl teams and USC only played 4 teams with a winning record all year yet Sagarin had USC's SOS higher than WVU. Every other computer system had West Virginia's higher.

The Pac-10 has the worst OOC record (67-41) since '06. They're doing better this year though. If you want to talk about a conference being better than the SEC then the only comparable conference is the Big East.

The Big East had the best record against BCS conferences between '06-08 with a .551 winning percentage. They had the second best OOC record overall with a 102-35 record. They also have the best bowl record over the last 3 years with a 12-4 record. And they're 3-1 in BCS bowl games with wins over Georgia, Wake Forest and Oklahoma.

The Pac-10 gets help in the computer polls because they play 9 conference games apiece. That boosts their SOS's. Still Sagarin is a fraud when it comes to his SOS numbers. I've found many things wrong with his system.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 18:24 pm
Furthermore, the Pac-10 had 5 of it's 10 teams finish with a losing record last year. That's unheard of and really embarrassing. They went 2-6 against the MWC including losses to New Mexico and UNLV. Their 5th place team Arizona was the team who lost to 4-8 New Mexico.

Like I said, the computer systems reward the Pac-10 too much because they play more conference games than any other conference. And they get more rewarded for losing a game to a good team than a team would get for beating a mediocre team.

Honestly the records speak for themselves. The Pac-10 has the worst OOC record of any conference since '06. This is not a good conference.

1. SEC
2. Big East
3. Big 12
4. Big 10
5. Pac-10
6. ACC

That's how I'd rank the conferences based on a 4 year review.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 18:43 pm
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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 20:18 pm
being a usc fan here in sec country is an absolute thrill...THE SEC IS SCURRRED OF THE TROJANS!
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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 20:51 pm
SEC is the real deal.

No other conference comes close.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 21:08 pm

The Dream wrote

SEC is the real deal.

No other conference comes close.


Look. I think the SEC is the best but lets be real here. They're not as dominant as everyone makes them out to be.

Alabama lost to UL-Monroe a couple seasons ago.
Tennessee lost to Wyoming last year.
Arkansas barely survived UL-Monroe last year 28-27.
Mississippi St. lost to Louisiana Tech last year.
Vanderbilt lost to Army this year.

The SEC has a lot of really bad losses in recent years.

They've done well in the National Championships. But lets be real. The system is ridiculous. There should be a playoff that lets more than just 2 teams play for the Championship. Louisville and Michigan had resumes very similar to Florida in '06 and didn't get a chance to play for the title.

The SEC is only .500 in games against BCS conferences between '06-08. That ranks behind the Big East and Big 10. It's tied with the Pac-10 for third.

They have a 19-7 bowl record since '06 which places third. The Big East has the best at 12-4 and the Pac-10 is second with a 12-5 record.

The SEC and Big East have by far the best OOC records in the regular season since '06 though. No other conference comes close there.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 21:28 pm

StLRams041 wrote

The Dream wrote

SEC is the real deal.

No other conference comes close.


Look. I think the SEC is the best but lets be real here. They're not as dominant as everyone makes them out to be.

Alabama lost to UL-Monroe a couple seasons ago.
Tennessee lost to Wyoming last year.
Arkansas barely survived UL-Monroe last year 28-27.
Mississippi St. lost to Louisiana Tech last year.
Vanderbilt lost to Army this year.

The SEC has a lot of really bad losses in recent years.

They've done well in the National Championships. But lets be real. The system is ridiculous. There should be a playoff that lets more than just 2 teams play for the Championship. Louisville and Michigan had resumes very similar to Florida in '06 and didn't get a chance to play for the title.

The SEC is only .500 in games against BCS conferences between '06-08. That ranks behind the Big East and Big 10. It's tied with the Pac-10 for third.

They have a 19-7 bowl record since '06 which places third. The Big East has the best at 12-4 and the Pac-10 is second with a 12-5 record.

The SEC and Big East have by far the best OOC records in the regular season since '06 though. No other conference comes close there.

You guys started this :!: last year and it was the Big XII was stronger than the SEC. Now its the Pac-10, Who will it be next year?
The SEC is head and shoulders the best. Yeah, some of their lower teams had some bad losses last year.
Wyoming couldnt touch Tennessee this year.
UL-Monroe would be eaten alive by Bama
This Arkansas team would crush UL-Monroe
and Vandy is one of those schools that chant "that's alright, that's ok cause youre gonna work for us some day."
Tennessee's out of conference schedule this year was Ohio, Ucla, and Memphis, not upper echelon, but not wimpy either.
Championships make the rest of the college football world hate us. Physical play makes them respect us.
NO matter if you love or hate us, you will always have to make comparisons to the SEC when trying to find out who is the best.
If im not mistaken, the BIG XII is 0 - 3 against the Mountain West THIS year. How about that.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 21:29 pm

atlram wrote

being a usc fan here in sec country is an absolute thrill...THE SEC IS SCURRRED OF THE TROJANS!


No kidding. What happens when the SEC travels more than a few hundred miles for a game. They get BURIED. PAC 10 teams play anyone, anywhere, anytime. That's just the way we are out here.

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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 21:41 pm

Molotov wrote

atlram wrote

being a usc fan here in sec country is an absolute thrill...THE SEC IS SCURRRED OF THE TROJANS!


No kidding. What happens when the SEC travels more than a few hundred miles for a game. They get BURIED. PAC 10 teams play anyone, anywhere, anytime. That's just the way we are out here.
Didnt Georgia spank Ariz St. last year in Arizona. Why would anyone be afraid of a team that loses to Washington, and Oregon St. The Trojans are a product of the media. How many years has it been since theyve played for a championship?
They can never get in anymore because they lose to some scrub Pac - 10 team and their schedule never has the quality opponents to move them back up the polls.
One loss every year in the Pac - 10 would be three losses every year in the SEC. SC is afraid of Meyer and the boys.

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Post subject: Re: End of the Myth: PAC-10 Football is stronger then SEC
Posted: 29 Oct 2009 22:15 pm
[quote="Molotov"]SEC plays wimps, PAC 10 does not.




The SEC plays each other. Wimps? Laughing Laughing
And, I'm sorry...who beat U.S.C.?? Laughing Laughing
Molotov...you should have your own comedy hour.
The BCS takes everything into consideration, and the SEC has 3 in the top 10, the Pac Ten has 2.
ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!


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