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Post subject: Re: Brandon Spikes Half Game Suspension
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 11:13 am

brianstl wrote

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Talk about beating a dead horse! The dude got suspended and didn't deserve to be. Move on.

Go Gators!!



I must admit, I've been suprised at the level of arrogance that Gators fans have displayed on this one. Even from one of my favorite posters (CfaninFla), there is still sort of this sense of defiance about the fact that people are upset about what Spikes did. I'd like to think that if Sean Weatherspoon had done this, I'd be willing to see past the Black and Gold and call it for what it is, but who knows - maybe my allegience to the team is too strong? As for Spikes, I have 2 thoughts about it:

1 - I have heard Spikes talk, on several occassions, where he has been critical of opponents for dirty play. That makes this whole incident and actions by him look that much the worse to me. You can't have it both ways, young man.

2 - Again, Florida people can't see it (apparently), but Urban Meyer is coming out of this looking very badly. It isn't just 1 "Yahoo" writer who thinks this guys. It's been all over every national radio and TV show. Florida is taking a big hit image-wise over this move. All Meyer had to do was sit him for 1 game, and people would have let it go. Even if they believed Spikes deserved more than that, 1 game would have appeased the masses enough to move on to the next story. But to "suspend" a guy, yet he's still going to be dressed out in full uniform ready to play later on that same game - that's a joke, and it gives off the perception that Urban Meyer enables this type of behavior from his players.

And yes, he definitely deserved to be suspended.


Well first of all I haven't said it was okay. I said he lost it and was wrong. Reading comprehension around here is really poor.

Second, on the Herd show this morning they talked about Spikes with a football guy from ESPN. He said he thought it should have been an entire game, but this type of stuff goes on ALL THE TIME IN THE PILE. Straight from a guy covering the sport for a living.

Lastly, I just think this entire "maiming for life" BS is as over the top as someone saying there should be nothing done.

I am not quite sure how Mizzou fan there that says the cheap shot is totally different when he ADMITS he didn't even see it. Tebow had relaxed, hte play was 10 yards up hte field away from him. He had his back turned and got DRILLED in the side by a guy who loaded up and hit him. If you think that pads cover every part of a football player you are more myopic than even I thought.

Spikes was wrong, probably should have got a full game. I doubt ANYONE will even remember this in two weeks.


Well on Mike and Mike this morning Mike Golic said this stuff doesn't go on all the time. Said a lot of stuff happens, but eye gouging is not one of them. Said the punishment should have been much nore severe.

But what does Golic know......... he only played the game for a living.


First of all GOLIC HATES Meyer and Florida. When Meyer turned down his precious ND he has hated him ever since. He was also the one WHINING the loudest about the calls against Arky.

But let us put a little perspective in here. Spikes never TOUCHED the guys eyes. He jammed his hand into his face mask. Now I can only assume that it must happen quite a but, hands inside the face mask since many players now wear full face shields.

Let's see I remember Dobler talking about biting, spitting, pulling legs and arms and reaching up under face masks to get at guys faces in piles. Seems the ESPN guy said he hears it from numerous player that it DOES go on all the time. So either hte ESPN guy has a an agenda and is lying about numerous players or it actually does happen.

i wonder how many times Golic has carried the ball and been tackeld by defensive players.

That being said, Spikes went after the guy and was wrong. I have never said he wasn't. But anyone screaming for more than a game is just being ridiculous in my opinion.
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Post subject: Re: Brandon Spikes Half Game Suspension
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 11:49 am
Thought I would see if Mr. Golic has had an opinion on this stuff in the past, appears he does.

Here is a 2006 article from USA Today titled, "Pileups Can Be Hazardous To Health"



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-1 0-25-pileup-cover_x.htm



Here is a portion of the article linked above:



When bodies fly to grab a fumble, Golic says, "Quite honestly, anything goes."



"You do what you've got to do, and anything is open, if you know what I mean," he says. "A finger will get bent back, and some guys will break it."




Golic, who played in the NFL from 1986-93, says his most memorable anything-goes moment came while with the Philadelphia Eagles. On the bottom was one of his closest friends, then-Eagles punter Jeff Feagles.




"Two guys had hit him, and by the time I got over, there were a couple of guys on his back," Golic says. "I reached down and I started choking the guy. I just started squeezing."




"I was just, as we like to say, getting his attention."

So in 2006 it was "anything goes" but now that a Florida player did something, it isn't anything goes for Mr. Golic. Just so I have this right, it is okay to choke a guy out but you don't stick your hand inside his face mask?

What kind of damage can be done to a person when choking them?
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 12:21 pm
'The SEC has already said they are satisfied with the punishment and MUCH more is being made of this because of the success Meyer has had. '


It's being made much more of an issue because the SEC already got called out for the refs letting Alabama and Florida get and get away with calls.

Now another black mark on Florida and the SEC is fine.

It just asks the question who is running the institution, the guards or the inmates.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 12:41 pm

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'The SEC has already said they are satisfied with the punishment and MUCH more is being made of this because of the success Meyer has had. '


It's being made much more of an issue because the SEC already got called out for the refs letting Alabama and Florida get and get away with calls.

Now another black mark on Florida and the SEC is fine.

It just asks the question who is running the institution, the guards or the inmates.


So let me ask is the big 10 doing anything about teh obvious TD taken away from Indiana on Saturday? The Big 10 just trying to make sure Iowa goes undefeated right?
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This is absolutely pointless anymore, obviously peoples morals are completely different and if some people dont think this is absolutely absurd so be it. I know my exact opinion on it and if someone was in the situation that running back is in i'm pretty sure what their opinion would be as well. Thanks for the conversation.
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This is absolutely pointless anymore, obviously peoples morals are completely different and if some people dont think this is absolutely absurd so be it. I know my exact opinion on it and if someone was in the situation that running back is in i'm pretty sure what their opinion would be as well. Thanks for the conversation.


I am pretty sure the running back that WAS in that position has spoken out on it. But YOU know that he was just trying to be macho right? You know how he REALLY feels because well... you are so superior, right?
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 18:38 pm

CardfaninFla01 wrote

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This is absolutely pointless anymore, obviously peoples morals are completely different and if some people dont think this is absolutely absurd so be it. I know my exact opinion on it and if someone was in the situation that running back is in i'm pretty sure what their opinion would be as well. Thanks for the conversation.


I am pretty sure the running back that WAS in that position has spoken out on it. But YOU know that he was just trying to be macho right? You know how he REALLY feels because well... you are so superior, right?

Dude your right there you go be happy
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 18:45 pm
Brandon Spikes and Urban Meyer are both CLASSLESS individuals.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 18:54 pm
I will have to bookmark this thread for the next time Lane Kiffin or anyone associated with Tennessee gets caught in any tom foolery.

The hypocrisy will be first class when Cardfaninfla is leading the charge.
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Post subject: Re: Brandon Spikes Half Game Suspension
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 19:02 pm

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I will have to bookmark this thread for the next time Lane Kiffin or anyone associated with Tennessee gets caught in any tom foolery.

The hypocrisy will be first class when Cardfaninfla is leading the charge.


Really, how is that? Have I said he wasn't wrong? Have I said I probably would have gone with a 1 game? I believe I did. You keep trying to stir stuff up but it just won't stick.

Meyer according to reports talked with the SEC Commish prior to handing out the suspension. Let me know when the SEC sends Meyer his first repremand, Kiffy cakes already has two.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 19:03 pm

Mizzoufan26 wrote

CardfaninFla01 wrote

Mizzoufan26 wrote

This is absolutely pointless anymore, obviously peoples morals are completely different and if some people dont think this is absolutely absurd so be it. I know my exact opinion on it and if someone was in the situation that running back is in i'm pretty sure what their opinion would be as well. Thanks for the conversation.


I am pretty sure the running back that WAS in that position has spoken out on it. But YOU know that he was just trying to be macho right? You know how he REALLY feels because well... you are so superior, right?

Dude your right there you go be happy


You are the one saying you KNOW what the RB would feel, yet you HAVE his feelings in print right there and they don't match yours. What don't you understand?
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Post subject: Re: Brandon Spikes Half Game Suspension
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 19:05 pm

CardfaninFla01 wrote

ntexascardfan wrote

I will have to bookmark this thread for the next time Lane Kiffin or anyone associated with Tennessee gets caught in any tom foolery.

The hypocrisy will be first class when Cardfaninfla is leading the charge.


Really, how is that? Have I said he wasn't wrong? Have I said I probably would have gone with a 1 game? I believe I did. You keep trying to stir stuff up but it just won't stick.

Meyer according to reports talked with the SEC Commish prior to handing out the suspension. Let me know when the SEC sends Meyer his first repremand, Kiffy cakes already has two.


I haven't tried to stir anything up.

I just think you're a hypocrite. That's all.
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