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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 03:40 am
you would think a team would respond with a better effort after their captain returned from a year with perplexing injuries. While I don't blame Brewer for anything related to the two losses, I find it troubling that the players played flat the past two games. I had once heard that he was selected by Murry but that the team loved him as captain. If they did it would have shown up on the ice..i.m.h.o.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 03:56 am
With all things considered... the Blues have looked flat in 5 of their 6 home games. 3 of 4 without Brewer.

I'm tired of hearing some fans scream and yell at Brewer from their seats on every move he makes.

To those fans: give it a break. You're making yourself look like a total idiot.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 07:22 am
I think the Blues lousy play has more to do with the rest of the players than it does Brewer.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:00 am
Pretty good Larueskee, you managed to keep your Brewer hate contained for two whole games.

Like the above poster said, the Blues played like garbage prior to Brewer coming back and just continued it. While I could see some validity in your argument, it still seems like grasping at straws.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:26 am
Brewer hasn't played or been a part of this team for a year (at least on the ice). He came back without a rehab, dons the "C" and is considered a first line defenseman. My only question is: Who does he have the goods on? Is it Murray, JD, Pleau?

I think he is a good player and can be a serviceable 2nd or 3rd line defenseman. But he should have gone at least a few games in Peoria before being put on the ice at the NHL level. His -3 is a pretty solid indicator of that. Just the fact that his wearing the "C" has created the stir is has indicates it may not be the best move (where there is smoke, there is usually fire).

No, the Blues have bigger issues than Brewer but you can't discount all of this. It has to factor in to some degree. Since we're not in the locker room and don't coach the team, we'll never know to what degree. But rational people would have to at least scratch their head a little bit?

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:49 am
Blaming Brewer for the team scoring zero goals in their last 6 periods of play at home? I jsut don't get that.

I think some how the rest of the team has a hand in that as well....and the opponets playing a pretty good game against us too. If you don't score and the other team plays well, that's how you lose. Not by adding back in a top 2 pairing defenseman.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:55 am
Can someone please bump the official thread about Brewer. I thought we were supposed to consolidate all the idiots into one thread.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:57 am

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Brewer hasn't played or been a part of this team for a year (at least on the ice). He came back without a rehab, dons the "C" and is considered a first line defenseman. My only question is: Who does he have the goods on? Is it Murray, JD, Pleau?

I think he is a good player and can be a serviceable 2nd or 3rd line defenseman. But he should have gone at least a few games in Peoria before being put on the ice at the NHL level. His -3 is a pretty solid indicator of that. Just the fact that his wearing the "C" has created the stir is has indicates it may not be the best move (where there is smoke, there is usually fire).

No, the Blues have bigger issues than Brewer but you can't discount all of this. It has to factor in to some degree. Since we're not in the locker room and don't coach the team, we'll never know to what degree. But rational people would have to at least scratch their head a little bit?


By smoke do you actually mean people on message boards complaining that he is a bad captain? Normally I agree with the "where there's smoke, there's fire", but smoke from a forum, doesn't mean fire in a locker room, by any stretch of the imagination.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:17 am

sptsman wrote

Brewer hasn't played or been a part of this team for a year (at least on the ice). He came back without a rehab, dons the "C" and is considered a first line defenseman. My only question is: Who does he have the goods on? Is it Murray, JD, Pleau?

I think he is a good player and can be a serviceable 2nd or 3rd line defenseman. But he should have gone at least a few games in Peoria before being put on the ice at the NHL level. His -3 is a pretty solid indicator of that. Just the fact that his wearing the "C" has created the stir is has indicates it may not be the best move (where there is smoke, there is usually fire).

No, the Blues have bigger issues than Brewer but you can't discount all of this. It has to factor in to some degree. Since we're not in the locker room and don't coach the team, we'll never know to what degree. But rational people would have to at least scratch their head a little bit?


How did you come to the conclusion that he's playing on the top pairing? That may be the case at some point this season, but he was eased into his first game back and was third among D minutes last game. Which would put him right where you say he should be: a second pairing defenseman.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:25 am
Let's not forget injuries to Jackman, Oshie, and Steen.

Oshie and Steen are probably 2 of our 3 best defensive forwards. Jackman is our best, or second best, defensive defenseman. This team is close to healthy. Let's just hope that McDonald's injury isn't one that lingers on for a while.

I also think this is a completely different team when Weaver is in the press box.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:33 am
I didn't get the impression the OP was trying to bash Brewer. I can see his point, I was expecting the team to play more inspired in front of the Captain.

They may have done that, it's hard to tell when a team is struggling and not scoring. The team did put up a good amount of shots. I don't want to make excuses, but as others have said, this team isn't whole right now.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:35 am

sptsman wrote

Just the fact that his wearing the "C" has created the stir is has indicates it may not be the best move (where there is smoke, there is usually fire).


Has it created a stir with ANYONE who is at all closely involved with the team? The only people claiming to see smoke are fans posting on message boards, not anyone playing for or coaching the Blues.

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