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Post subject: Hannity, et al., get behind a 3rd party
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 07:42 am
To my liberal friends, perhaps you feel the same way from your side of the aisle:

As a conservative, I'm tired of Hannity (Rush to an extent) espousing "the Republican Party needs to return to its conservative principles."

To paraphrase Reagan, "I never left the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me."

The Republican Party does not represent conservatism. Other than Goldwater and Reagan, most were of the moderate variety. Nixon? Ike? They were of the country club.

It belongs to the McCains, Snows and Collins of the world. When Gingrich endorses the ultra liberal Republican in NY's 23rd race, when Michael Steele wants a "more inclusive" GOP, tbat tells you they support the party over principle.

If you would have the leading conservative commentators and columnists encouraging the truly conservative GOP members to switch to a 3rd party-be it Conservative Party or other organization-you just might see a movement gain real power. As it is, most are probably afraid to give up their committee positions.

I would feel the same way as a liberal.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:41 am
Regan sponsored the most liberal abortion bill in the HISTORY of California and also was a proponent of HUGE government spending so he was NOT a true conserative.

The person the right wing adores loved to kill babies!

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 08:52 am
What is your definition of true conservative principles? Social or Fiscal or both? The reason I'm asking is because I thought Barry Goldwater was pro-choice and strict seperation of church and state. I don't think today's social conservatives would think all that much of him.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:27 am
Yes, lets get all of the crazies out of the republican party.

The problem is, once they begin to lose elections as a third party, will they all desert? The current ideology of the conservative demagogues (Hannity and Rush, etc) are untenable outside of a small geographic region in the south.

And Im not talking just about the "south" of the civil war. I'm talking about a much smaller south of Texas, Mississippi, OK, Missouri, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina.

I live in North Carolina, and with every year the state becomes more solidly democratic. We've had a democratic governor since the 80s. But the REAL measure of change is in the mayoral situation. Charlotte, the most convervative big city in North Carolina, the center of banking and finance, elected Anthony Foxx (a democrat) as governor yesterday (after 7 terms of a Republican). The Democratic city council increased from 7-4 dems to 8-4 dems. Virginia, North Carolina, and to a smaller extent, Georgia will all depart the Republican camps for good in the next decade.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:39 am

Rawley wrote

To my liberal friends, perhaps you feel the same way from your side of the aisle:

As a conservative, I'm tired of Hannity (Rush to an extent) espousing "the Republican Party needs to return to its conservative principles."

To paraphrase Reagan, "I never left the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me."

The Republican Party does not represent conservatism. Other than Goldwater and Reagan, most were of the moderate variety. Nixon? Ike? They were of the country club.

It belongs to the McCains, Snows and Collins of the world. When Gingrich endorses the ultra liberal Republican in NY's 23rd race, when Michael Steele wants a "more inclusive" GOP, tbat tells you they support the party over principle.

If you would have the leading conservative commentators and columnists encouraging the truly conservative GOP members to switch to a 3rd party-be it Conservative Party or other organization-you just might see a movement gain real power. As it is, most are probably afraid to give up their committee positions.

I would feel the same way as a liberal.


I wouldn't want any of those dung for brains 'entertainers' like Hannity, druggie Rush supporting or 'pushing' for 3rd party. Just look what they've done for the GOP.

btw: 3rd party doesn't equate to 'liberal', it equates to people who are fully capable of thinking for themselves unlike the supporters of those other 2 parties.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 09:43 am
Texas is becoming more blue every year. The metro areas are already blue and the rural parts of the state are in despair as the economics of the last 20 years have caused the loss of many family farms and ranches. Rural Texas is shrinking as much of its youth have fled to the cities.

The growing Hispanic population also presents problems for the GOP in Texas as the GOP has not been friendly in its calls for deportation and raids etc.

When President Obama pushes for and wins an amnesty for illeagals thus creating millions of additional democratic voters the transition to blue will be complete.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 10:06 am

theAlaskanBear wrote

Yes, lets get all of the crazies out of the republican party.

The problem is, once they begin to lose elections as a third party, will they all desert? The current ideology of the conservative demagogues (Hannity and Rush, etc) are untenable outside of a small geographic region in the south.

And Im not talking just about the "south" of the civil war. I'm talking about a much smaller south of Texas, Mississippi, OK, Missouri, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina.

I live in North Carolina, and with every year the state becomes more solidly democratic. We've had a democratic governor since the 80s. But the REAL measure of change is in the mayoral situation. Charlotte, the most convervative big city in North Carolina, the center of banking and finance, elected Anthony Foxx (a democrat) as governor yesterday (after 7 terms of a Republican). The Democratic city council increased from 7-4 dems to 8-4 dems. Virginia, North Carolina, and to a smaller extent, Georgia will all depart the Republican camps for good in the next decade.


Don't you mean Charlotte elected Anthony Foxx as MAYOR?

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 10:34 am
Hannity(the Palooka), O'Reilly, Newt, and several others, should ride off into the sunset and do their attention seeking somewhere else.

Their accomplishments should be duly noted and acknowledged.

Mr.'s Limbaugh amd Beck, should lead the new party.

Debbie Wasserman, should change parties. Laughing

Just my view.

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 10:39 am
The fanatical demagogues on the right like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter are slowly killing the party off.

They don't realize that most people look at them as HATEFUL and INTORELANT rather than as normal people.

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Post subject: Re: Hannity, et al., get behind a 3rd party
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 10:54 am

Bigfish wrote

Hannity(the Palooka), O'Reilly, Newt, and several others, should ride off into the sunset and do their attention seeking somewhere else.

Their accomplishments should be duly noted and acknowledged.

Mr.'s Limbaugh amd Beck, should lead the new party.

Debbie Wasserman, should change parties. Laughing

Just my view.


I don't think two dope fiends with an appalling lack of education should be the corner stone of your party. Just a thought. Neither have any experience in anything other than bloviating on radio/tv...

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Posted: 04 Nov 2009 11:13 am

Omar Little wrote

Bigfish wrote

Hannity(the Palooka), O'Reilly, Newt, and several others, should ride off into the sunset and do their attention seeking somewhere else.

Their accomplishments should be duly noted and acknowledged.

Mr.'s Limbaugh amd Beck, should lead the new party.

Debbie Wasserman, should change parties. Laughing

Just my view.


I don't think two dope fiends with an appalling lack of education should be the corner stone of your party. Just a thought. Neither have any experience in anything other than bloviating on radio/tv...

Sssssshhhhhh!!!!! Shocked

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Post subject: Re: Hannity, et al., get behind a 3rd party
Posted: 04 Nov 2009 11:14 am

Bigfish wrote

Hannity(the Palooka), O'Reilly, Newt, and several others, should ride off into the sunset and do their attention seeking somewhere else.

Their accomplishments should be duly noted and acknowledged.

Mr.'s Limbaugh amd Beck, should lead the new party.

Debbie Wasserman, should change parties. Laughing

Just my view.


You really want loud, angry, divisive entertainers running your political party? Really? People who have made their livings by blabbing on the radio should be given the keys to the country? Really?!?

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