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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:08 am
Are there any experts of Islam here who know whether in fact suicide missions are authorized?

You hear things like "70 virgins" thrown around quite a bit. Is this a literal translation or taken out of context like "an eye for an eye?"

I'm looking for objective opinions on this.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:12 am
KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:17 am
Hopefully someone with REAL knowledge will show up.
My guess, is that like the Bible, the Koran is probably interpreted to fit particular agendas as needed.
There are nutcases in Islam, and there are nutcases in Christianity.
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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:20 am

BarnBurner wrote

Hopefully someone with REAL knowledge will show up.
My guess, is that like the Bible, the Koran is probably interpreted to fit particular agendas as needed.
There are nutcases in Islam, and there are nutcases in Christianity.


This was going to be my answer as well...You can make a case for the Bible supporting terrorism just the same as you can for the Quran.

As my father always taught me..."There will always be nutjobs."
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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:21 am
Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.
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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:28 am
Thundersnow was good enough to post some "compelling topical entries" from the Bible in another thread. I've copied them here for your enjoyment.

LOOK AT THESE EVIL BIBLE QUOTES:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:28 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote

Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.


I could, if you like, post similar Bible passages about killing unbelievers, including women and children...
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:30 am

libvet wrote

BrummerStealsHome wrote

Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.


I could, if you like, post similar Bible passages about killing unbelievers, including women and children...


You could try, you would probably be quite wrong, and you would definitely be off topic as this thread is about Islam.
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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:30 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote

Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.


What Christian bashing?

Do you think Fred Phelps is doing the lord's work?

What about The Catholic Church when they tortured Jews?

What about the KKK?

Or, do you think they misunderstand and misinterpret?
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:34 am

ninkasi wrote

Thundersnow was good enough to post some "compelling topical entries" from the Bible in another thread. I've copied them here for your enjoyment.

LOOK AT THESE EVIL BIBLE QUOTES:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5


When was it lately that Christian radicals declared a holy war on a way of life (America) and implemented death and destruction?

The OP asked a question - I googled it and this is what I got.

Don't like it? Too bad. This is what the crazies use as justification for their holy war.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:35 am

battra wrote

BrummerStealsHome wrote

Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.


What Christian bashing?

Do you think Fred Phelps is doing the lord's work?

What about The Catholic Church when they tortured Jews?

What about the KKK?

Or, do you think they misunderstand and misinterpret?


battra, you have the most disorganized mind of anyone I have ever seen here.
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Post subject: Re: What does the Koran say about terrorism?
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 10:35 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote

libvet wrote

BrummerStealsHome wrote

Tarawa posts some compelling topical entries from the Koran, and all the idiot libs want to do is bash Christianity. Bigotry on parade, folks.


I could, if you like, post similar Bible passages about killing unbelievers, including women and children...


You could try, you would probably be quite wrong, and you would definitely be off topic as this thread is about Islam.


He'd be right. And you just told somebody yesterday that threads go off in all kinds of directions.
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