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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 19:15 pm
Estimates are that it costs roughly anywhere from 6-10 billion dollars to build a modern nuclear power plant. And since they usually find a hard time locating private financing to build, government subsidy will have to pick up most of the bill.

The Republicans just released and energy plan that calls for 100 to be built by 2030. That would come around to be about 600 billion to 1 trillion dollars worth of government subsidy over a 20 year period. So those who want this to happen should not be griping about the cost. This would be the way Republicans think infrastructure money should be spent, so please leave the bullsh*t double talk at home.

The downside is that Uranium, Potassium, and Plutonium isotopes aren't going to be in infinite abundance, so the full switch to solar or hydrogen power by the middle of the century will have had to happen if Nuclear is chosen as the fuel to ween us off of oil and on to H2 and photons.

Before my friends on the left start berating me on possible environmental side effects of this type of energy. I will gladly say that I will take a 20 square mile no-go zone, after a possible meltdown, than an atmosphere completely choked with CO2. There hasn't been a single international crisis over a plant meltdown since Chernobyl, and that was more because of shoddy construction and safety standards in the former Soviet Union, than problems with the energy source itself.

Feel free to discuss. Just try to keep it civil.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 19:41 pm

cardsfan1984 wrote

Estimates are that it costs roughly anywhere from 6-10 billion dollars to build a modern nuclear power plant. And since they usually find a hard time locating private financing to build, government subsidy will have to pick up most of the bill.

The Republicans just released and energy plan that calls for 100 to be built by 2030. That would come around to be about 600 billion to 1 trillion dollars worth of government subsidy over a 20 year period. So those who want this to happen should not be griping about the cost. This would be the way Republicans think infrastructure money should be spent, so please leave the bullsh*t double talk at home.

The downside is that Uranium, Potassium, and Plutonium isotopes aren't going to be in infinite abundance, so the full switch to solar or hydrogen power by the middle of the century will have had to happen if Nuclear is chosen as the fuel to ween us off of oil and on to H2 and photons.

Before my friends on the left start berating me on possible environmental side effects of this type of energy. I will gladly say that I will take a 20 square mile no-go zone, after a possible meltdown, than an atmosphere completely choked with CO2. There hasn't been a single international crisis over a plant meltdown since Chernobyl, and that was more because of shoddy construction and safety standards in the former Soviet Union, than problems with the energy source itself.

Feel free to discuss. Just try to keep it civil.


There are better methods of producing energy than nuclear, that don't produce either greenhouse gasses or nuclear waste.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 19:49 pm
Ya, sure.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/05/07/kennedy_doesnt_play_by_the_rules/

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 19:51 pm

cardsfan1984 wrote

Estimates are that it costs roughly anywhere from 6-10 billion dollars to build a modern nuclear power plant. And since they usually find a hard time locating private financing to build, government subsidy will have to pick up most of the bill.

The Republicans just released and energy plan that calls for 100 to be built by 2030. That would come around to be about 600 billion to 1 trillion dollars worth of government subsidy over a 20 year period. So those who want this to happen should not be griping about the cost. This would be the way Republicans think infrastructure money should be spent, so please leave the bullsh*t double talk at home.

The downside is that Uranium, Potassium, and Plutonium isotopes aren't going to be in infinite abundance, so the full switch to solar or hydrogen power by the middle of the century will have had to happen if Nuclear is chosen as the fuel to ween us off of oil and on to H2 and photons.

Before my friends on the left start berating me on possible environmental side effects of this type of energy. I will gladly say that I will take a 20 square mile no-go zone, after a possible meltdown, than an atmosphere completely choked with CO2. There hasn't been a single international crisis over a plant meltdown since Chernobyl, and that was more because of shoddy construction and safety standards in the former Soviet Union, than problems with the energy source itself.

Feel free to discuss. Just try to keep it civil.


I don't necessarily have a problem with building a few here or there. But we tend to take things too far. If it is supplemental almost to act as a bridge to newer, cleaner technology than it's ok.

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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Power. I, a Marxist/NAZI Eugenist love the idea!!!!
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 20:09 pm

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Last time I looked, that guys been pushing up daisy's for the last few months.

Were getting away from the pro's/con's of Nuclear power.

No more non-sequiters.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 20:17 pm

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foofighter wrote



Last time I looked, that guys been pushing up daisy's for the last few months.

Were getting away from the pro's/con's of Nuclear power.

No more non-sequiters.


Nuke power is only a part of a logical comprehensive energy plan.

Independent Lens had a good show about Native Americans out west and their involvement in the energy business. Well worth the watch. Prolly on line.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 20:25 pm

foofighter wrote

cardsfan1984 wrote

foofighter wrote



Last time I looked, that guys been pushing up daisy's for the last few months.

Were getting away from the pro's/con's of Nuclear power.

No more non-sequiters.


Nuke power is only a part of a logical comprehensive energy plan.



A rational energy plan would stay as far from nuclear as possible. The plants are expensive, have a short life span, and don't use renewable sources. It's much better to use renewable sources. They're cheaper and cleaner.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 21:08 pm
The white haired republican from Georgia himself said in his book "A Contract With the Earth" that if the United States obtained the same % of its electricity from nuclear power as does France, then you'd scrub 2.2 billion tons of CO2 from the atmosphere, which would put you 15% better than the ignored targets "set" by the Kyoto treaty.

I'd not frame the debate in terms of "either/or" with renewables and nuclear. The smartest among us truly have no clue as to what the energy picture will look like in 50 or 75 years. It's hard to base a present-day plan for building an energy superhighway to the future solely upon a dream of what might one day be; moreso when your nation's economic strength depends on the fork in the road.

It doesn't (to me) mean that new players are unimportant or should be shut out, but every choice involves compromises. Give what you may one day dream of taking care of all our energy needs time to show it can do that but have an ace in the hole in case we're wrong.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 23:56 pm
Nuclear fission energy should certainly be pursued but with some diversification into solar and wind as is feasible. Fission energy will soon (in 50 years) give way to fusion energy. Once this is the case the supply will be nearly limitless.

Nuclear power is not a solution for transportation unless you go with electric cars then you have all the pollution from manufacturing and disposing of batteries. Hydrogen fuel cell based vehicles are the better answer there (although they are not completely free from pollution from manufacture/disposal either but will last longer so they should be less polluting.

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Posted: 07 Nov 2009 00:03 am

acidbill wrote

cardsfan1984 wrote

Estimates are that it costs roughly anywhere from 6-10 billion dollars to build a modern nuclear power plant. And since they usually find a hard time locating private financing to build, government subsidy will have to pick up most of the bill.

The Republicans just released and energy plan that calls for 100 to be built by 2030. That would come around to be about 600 billion to 1 trillion dollars worth of government subsidy over a 20 year period. So those who want this to happen should not be griping about the cost. This would be the way Republicans think infrastructure money should be spent, so please leave the bullsh*t double talk at home.

The downside is that Uranium, Potassium, and Plutonium isotopes aren't going to be in infinite abundance, so the full switch to solar or hydrogen power by the middle of the century will have had to happen if Nuclear is chosen as the fuel to ween us off of oil and on to H2 and photons.

Before my friends on the left start berating me on possible environmental side effects of this type of energy. I will gladly say that I will take a 20 square mile no-go zone, after a possible meltdown, than an atmosphere completely choked with CO2. There hasn't been a single international crisis over a plant meltdown since Chernobyl, and that was more because of shoddy construction and safety standards in the former Soviet Union, than problems with the energy source itself.

Feel free to discuss. Just try to keep it civil.


There are better methods of producing energy than nuclear, that don't produce either greenhouse gasses or nuclear waste.


What would those methods be?

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Posted: 07 Nov 2009 00:30 am
Nuclear power is very safe despite the public perception of it. Also, it may be expensive, but so are alternative forms of renewable energy. At this point in time, there's no reason to convert to other forms of energy--at least, not until we can find cheaper ways of harvesting renewable forms of it.
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Posted: 07 Nov 2009 00:44 am

StL_2007 wrote

Nuclear power is very safe despite the public perception of it. Also, it may be expensive, but so are alternative forms of renewable energy. At this point in time, there's no reason to convert to other forms of energy--at least, not until we can find cheaper ways of harvesting renewable forms of it.


People seem to focus on things like Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and The China Syndrome. Nuclear plants are expensive to build, if they can even find a place they're allowed to build one, but once it is finished and online it produces electricity at a much lower cost than other fuels.

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