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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:14 pm

Touchy Tiger wrote

While the doom and gloom may be a bit overboard, serving up the cheerios is getting old.



Do I know you? You referred to me in another thread. What exactly is threatening to you about me responding to someone else's hyperbolic post?
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:17 pm
Nothing. I just prefer some balance. I love this team and have been a big fan for years but that should not mean I cannot advance what, in my opinion, appear to be somewhat serious concerns.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:18 pm

Touchy Tiger wrote

Nothing. I just prefer some balance. I love this team and have been a big fan for years but that should not mean I cannot advance what, in my opinion, appear to be somewhat serious concerns.



I have many of the same concerns as you, I'm sure. Funny, I didn't know that Dave Yost and Gary Pinkel came here to solicit advice.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:20 pm
Perhaps not, but nonetheless, but some of us fans think they need some advice from somewhere.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:22 pm

Touchy Tiger wrote

Perhaps not, but nonetheless, but some of us fans think they need some advice from somewhere.


Why don't you contact the athletic department instead? Why not share your opinions with them directly if you think they need the advice?
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:35 pm
Then why be a fan at all. Why have these blogs. Why discuss issues. We should all call the coaches then. Sounds like twisted and deflectionary logic to me. I have absolutely every right to express my concerns in a civil manner here or elsewhere and not only to communicate those to the coaches.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:39 pm
Sorry Brig but he is right. This is a forum and like what he says or not he has every right to say it. Welcome to the internet. If you don't like it read another thread. Lets all be civil Mizzou fans, not idiotic nubbers.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:54 pm

Touchy Tiger wrote

Then why be a fan at all. Why have these blogs. Why discuss issues. We should all call the coaches then. Sounds like twisted and deflectionary logic to me. I have absolutely every right to express my concerns in a civil manner here or elsewhere and not only to communicate those to the coaches.



fair enough...but don't get upset when you're branded with a particular stereotype. Haven't ever seen or heard from you before, and now you've been here 2 weeks and all you've done is pile onto threads ripping the program and coaches (and posters like myself for pointing out some positives). Just saying...if you've got such problems with the program, tell them about it. I never said he didn't have the RIGHT to say what he wanted...I just question his motivations in saying them.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 12:59 pm

parsifal wrote

Gentlemen, rest your sphincters.

If the coaching is the same through the end of the season, Pinkel should let some of his coaches go. It's a young team, but seeing a lack of growth or regression in his young players is a clear sign that the coaches are not successful in teaching them what they need to learn to win.

The offensive play calling has been horrific. The defensive coaching has scarcely been any better. This falls on Pinkel's subordinates. He talks a lot about how his team handles adversity, at the end of the season he needs to demonstrate to his team that his coaches and himself are equally accountable. Firing assistants does that.

If we're at the same point next year, I'll be all for letting Pinkel go.

But, even as I could see firing/replacing some of Pinkel's subordinates, I doubt we'll be seeing next season being as bad as this season has been.

Pinkel won't do it unless coerced, which won't go over very well, especially with a guy known for stubborness and getting up there in his years. Usually when assistants get fired, the head coach isn't around much longer.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 13:04 pm
The faithful are, by definition, faithful.

IMO, we are nowhere near the point at which "what must be done eventually should be done immediately."

The apoplexy is, in a strange way, a sign of how far we've come.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 13:28 pm
Question away. I am not a Nub or other troll but Brig trashed on me on my first post. I could turn it around and say if you can't take any critics, then get off the forum, but that would not be fair. Seems to me that you are the "touchy" one but let's drop it and get back to the topics at hand and after Saturday I think its fair to say that there are several.
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Post subject: Re: the faithful are making excuses, again
Posted: 09 Nov 2009 13:38 pm
It's fine touchy...you can be a grumpy as you like. Most on this board are - it's the main reason that I stay away from it primarily anymore. I don't post here nearly as much as I used to (talking years ago) and I stick primarily to the Powermizzou board. It's a place that actually DOES have balanced discussions.

What's most funny about this place is that because I make two or three posts in defense of the program, I'm labeled a "Kool aid drinker" and that I'm serving up "the cheerios." I have all kinds of beef with what I saw on Saturday, but there's no point in posting it here...it'll just get drowned out by the countless people who show up only after a bad loss and flood the place with hyperbole and rants about how Pinkel and his staff should be kicked to the curb.

So by all means, enjoy this place - it's free and open to anyone who wants to post in it, which means you get what you get - it's similar to Tigerboard in those respects. Neither place is all that appealing to me (though Tigerboard is much worse), so have at it - it's certainly your right to do so. It is too bad though, because I remember when this board used to be a really good place for reasonable and balanced discussion about Mizzou - not just a sounding board for people after a loss. Most of those old regular posters aren't found here anymore, at least not very often.

Maybe I'll check back in after a few days and see if some of the perpetually p!ssy posters (say that 5 times fast) have tired out.
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