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Post subject: Phillies decline option on Pedro Feliz
Posted: 08 Nov 2009 19:10 pm
Phillies decline option on Feliz

Sunday, November 8, 2009
Phillies decline option on Feliz
The Phillies have declined the option for 2010 on third baseman Pedro Feliz’ contract, general manager Ruben Amaro, Jr. announced in a press release. The Phillies had a $5.5 million option, a $5 million salary for 2010 and a $500,000 buyout.

Feliz, 34, batted .266 with 12 home runs and 82 RBI in 158 games for the Phillies this past season. With runners in scoring position, he hit a team-best .336, which ranked 13th among all National League players.

“This doesn’t preclude us from bringing Pedro back next season,” Amaro said in the statement. “While this allows us to explore other opportunities, we will continue to keep the lines of communication open with Pedro and his representative.”

The fact that the Phillies made Feliz a free agent means their personnel department has identified potential candidates who would either provide a substantial upgrade (the Angels’ Chone Figgins, the Mariners’ Adrian Beltre both possess better offensive numbers over the last 3 years and are regarded as solid defenders) or, at the very least, provide better cost efficiency than the money they would pay their incumbent (the Orioles’ Melvin Mora, and the Cardinals’ Mark DeRosa and Troy Glaus and the Tigers’ Placido Polanco are among the veterans who could be available).

Figgins, for example, has hit .301 with a .386 on-base percentage with 117 stolen bases over the last three seasons. But he will be 32 years old on Opening Day (nearly a year older than Jimmy Rollins), has played his entire career with the Angels, and can play second base and the outfield as well as third. Good luck predicting the type of contract he would ultimately receive.

Same goes for Beltre. And what about DeRosa, a player whom the Phillies have long admired, but who is coming off wrist surgery and will be 35 on Opening Day? Is there a team out there who would give the versatile righthanded hitter a hefty multi-year contract? Or might he wind up providing a better value than Feliz?

An offensive upgrade at third base is their best option at improving a lineup that led the National League in runs and home runs, but was prone to maddening stretches of impotence thanks in part to its vulnerability against lefthanded pitchers. But by declining his option, they risk being left with a less attractive option at third.


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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 19:15 pm
willl try beltre or derosa but i say he goes to the cubs
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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 19:39 pm

jrmomo100 wrote

willl try beltre or derosa but i say he goes to the cubs


A lot of people seem to think DeRosa will go back to Chicago. After witnessing what transpired there in 2009 and being shipped out for the likes of Milton Bradley by that idiotic front office, why would he want to go back? Even his great clubhouse presence wouldn't heal the wounds created by the likes of Zambrano and Bradley. Sure he wants to get paid big bucks like all players, but if he truly wants to win, Mark should've realized after 2 seasons that being a Cub won't get him a ring or a pennant.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 23:22 pm

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jrmomo100 wrote

willl try beltre or derosa but i say he goes to the cubs


A lot of people seem to think DeRosa will go back to Chicago. After witnessing what transpired there in 2009 and being shipped out for the likes of Milton Bradley by that idiotic front office, why would he want to go back? Even his great clubhouse presence wouldn't heal the wounds created by the likes of Zambrano and Bradley. Sure he wants to get paid big bucks like all players, but if he truly wants to win, Mark should've realized after 2 seasons that being a Cub won't get him a ring or a pennant.

DeRosa has publicly stated that he liked it in Chicago, I believe. And it would be good PR for the Cubs to bring him back.

Also, by your standard, NO free agent would want to sign with the Cubs, but we both know that isn't going to happen.


Pedro Feliz is exactly what the Cardinals DON'T need btw. Yes, he has a good glove. He also has a nonexistent bat. When you've played ten seasons in the big leagues, many as a starter, and have a career OBP below .300, you just can't hit, period. And this team needs hitters, not flashy fielders. So no thank you to Pedro Feliz.

(Before you point to his clutchiness, there is nothing in his past that indicates to me that his performance w/RISP this year was anything more than a fluke. He's typically a little better but not THAT much better, and not enough to justify the career .293 OBP overall.)
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Posted: 08 Nov 2009 23:57 pm
i enjoyed that statement about going to the cubs and not winning. u would think that would be obvious to players.

id take feliz but only if we miss out on derosa and beltre. the poor obp bothers me but he isnt a terrible hitter, just a bad on base guy. 1 year 3 mil or 2 year 7 mil id take him. it would need to be relatively cheap.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 01:58 am
Why does everyone think DeRosa will go back to the Cubs?

He's not going to play third with Ramirez there.
He's doubtful to play second with Baker there.
He's not going to play first with Lee there.
He's not going to play right field with Bradley there (unless, of course, the Cubs find someone to take him).
He's not going to play left field with Soriano there.

Sure, he could go there as a super sub bench guy, but he could (and most likely would) have the same role here.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 02:35 am
I really think that Glaus will cause more of a stir than people think. I'm not sure of his overall health, but I could see the Phillies,Twins, or even the Angels as a possibility. Time to give Freese his shot to afford Albert and the cast that we already have with appropriate wiggle room we have to be more creative with our thinking.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 14:52 pm
I have always liked Feliz. He can play any position and is good for 80 plus rbis per year.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 15:33 pm
wasn't he awful in the playoffs? I'm not sure we need another guy who strikes out a lot and can't come through in the clutch.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2009 18:40 pm

ColbyCheeseRasmus28 wrote

wasn't he awful in the playoffs? I'm not sure we need another guy who strikes out a lot and can't come through in the clutch.


He hit THE clutch homer of the WS for Philly. But they blew the game one inning later.
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Post subject: Re: Phillies decline option on Pedro Feliz
Posted: 10 Nov 2009 15:28 pm
I would try to bring DeRosa back first or sign a player like Chone Figgins if possible. If not, why not try Feliz.
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Post subject: Re: Phillies decline option on Pedro Feliz
Posted: 10 Nov 2009 15:44 pm

Birdinator wrote

I have always liked Feliz. He can play any position and is good for 80 plus rbis per year.


OMG NO!! Pedro Feliz has a CAREER .293 OBP. .2.9.3.!! The past 4 years his OPS was .709, .708, .705 and .694.

Brendan Ryan - .740
Yadier Molina - .749
Schu - .757
Rasmus - .714

Pedro Feliz has put up 80 RBI's a year hitting behind Barry Bonds and his .500 OBP, and behind Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard and Werth.

Pedro Feliz is NOT good.
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