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Cardinals manager Tony La Russa
Joe Strauss: We're well into the season's countdown. Twelve games remain, including seven at Busch, and even the local broadcast types have put away the calculators for what it will take for the Cardinals to reach postseason. General manager John Mozeliak is in Pittsburgh meeting with the skipper. On Tuesday, the organization shut down Club Flip after he showed up late the previous day in Miami. It's becoming (more) apparent that not everyone on the Good Ship Cardinal has been rowing in the same direction. To suggest that Lopez was the only issue is naive. The Cardinals have played light for much of the season within a no-fun atmosphere. The GM admitted as much earlier this year despite TLR's denials. Let's call it what it is. An underachieving first half compounded by personnel deficiencies in the second half. When any team loses five of its last six to the Pittsburgh Pirates, something is amiss. From the looks of things, many of you are headed to the lifeboats. Season-ticket holders first!!! No matter. Those in steerage have a voice here as well. The Tsunami has crested the horizon. Hold on, it looks like a rough ride.
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nickn: Jake Westbrook has came in here and pitched well enough in all games to give his team a legit chance to win each one of them. Do you think he has done enough for the the team to offer him arbitration as a Type B restricted free agent when the time comes? I know his $11 million base is substantial, but locking him in for 2011 would be the smart thing to do and regardless of what goes on with Pujols-right?

Joe Strauss: Offering Westbrook arbitration would be an extremely risky move since his acceptance would virtually guarantee him a raise over this year's $11M salary. My suspicion is the Cardinals will approach Westbrook in short order if they have interest in continuing the relationship. They worked deals with Pineiro and Lohse before the free agency filing period and may do so with Westbrook. There is a significant difference, however. The club locked up Lohse and Pineiro by arguably giving them market or above-market deals for more than one year. I doubt the club is in position to do so with Westbrook. I'm unsure if Westbrook would commit to a one-year arrangement without first testing the market. Doubt it.


McGarrett: ChatMeister - I've been wondering this for several months - just how much influence do you believe Keith Law and others in the sabermetric crowd had to do with the outcome of the Cy Young voting last year?

Thank you, sir.

Joe Strauss: Significant. Placing Javier Vazquez as runner-up affected results that saw the guy with the most first-place votes (Wainwright) finish third overall and the guy who led the league in ERA (Carpenter) left off two ballots entirely. Ten points separated first from third. If one voter who had Tim Lincecum first and Carpenter third had reversed his vote, Carp' would have won the vote. There increasingly appears a campaign to discredit pitcher wins as a consideration. They are considered by some as a derivative of "luck," much like RBI, in the estimation of some spreadsheet voters. Law didn't give the vote to Lincecum. However, there is an increasingly strong smartest-guy-in-the-room element that frowns on more traditional numbers now assigned the pejorative "peripherals." Personally, I thought Wainwright the NL's best pitcher in 2009 only to later be informed he was merely "luckier" than Lincecum. Who'da thunk?

nickn: Certainly a lack of being fundamentally sound on defense was a major reason for the demise of the team this year. Would you be in favor of Tony telling Brendan Ryan (and the team) that starting shortstop is his job in 2011 before the team goes home in a few weeks because of his potential to play stellar defense? How else can others on the team address this overall concern in terms of a more productive off season with the players already contractually committed to returning next year?

Joe Strauss: I see little reason for guarantees to be made after this season. The club needs to examine all options how it may improve offensively. Ryan is a great candidate for an otherwise strong offensive club. This team is not strong offensively. How Mo' reconfigures the infield will be intriguing to watch. It's also fair to wonder whether there will be some organizational rethinking regarding the right field situation.

JoePa: Joe,

Tho questions if I may,

1) When a Cardinals team, or any team for that matter, has a mental funk like they endured this year is it fair to say that if you want to contend change is neccessary or will ownership simply cite this season as an underachieving hiccup and leave fans with a chance to experience more of the same?

2) All injuries set aside would you classify this year's Cardinal team as overated or underachieving?

As always thank you for the great insight.

Joe Strauss: I'm not going to speak for ownership or the front office. It's probably best to watch what they do rather than go all-in on what is said. TLR or Mo' wouldn't have said Monday they were going to release Flip on Tuesday. My suspicision is there will be a thorough review, some of which may chafe the manager. However, the philsophy that allowed this club to enter the season with so little depth also deserves serious review.

Chew on this: Since July 26, 2006 the Cardinals are 357-340. During that span they've won two division titles and a World Series; however, that number hardly suggests a dominant club, especially within the context of the game's weakest division. A club spending that much money within the NL Central should expect better results. This will be the third time in the last four seasons the best player in the game will not see the postseason. It will also become the longest drought under current ownership without a playoff win.

Based on Pythagorean Theorem that assumes a game above or below .500 based on every five runs plus or minus run differential, the Cardinals rank as the game's biggest underachievers. The Theorem assigns them no worse than an 83-67 mark rather than 77-73. In other words, they should be breathing down the Reds' necks. Overrated? Depends on who you asked in March. Research what was said in this space. The ChatMeister believed the Cardinals possessed the front-line talent to win a poor division but were dangerously thin, leaving them vulnerable to a dramatic tumble given injuries. Sound familiar?

DE_Schmitt: Joe,

For the integrity of the game, wouldn't TLR want Jaime Garcia starting a game in the final series vs Colorado? Obviously the West and/or Wild Card may be on the line there. Thanks.

Joe Strauss: I believe the integrity of Jaime's health is the bigger issue.

wpruitt: Master of future and past, isn't the answer to the Cardinals' problems unbelievably simple? When did the Birds go into their swoon? When did TLR and Albert go to the Glen Beckathon? All right, the latter happened a LITTLE later, but not much later! Master of past & future, hasn't TLR placed the EXACT same curse on the Birds that Gene Autry did when he invited Nixon to sit in his luxury box in 1978? How long was it for the Angels after that? Do the tea (party) leaves lie, Master? 24 years? Will the Cardinals win before 2034, O Great Prognosticator?

Joe Strauss: Let me guess: You vote in the Democratic Primary.

NY Card Fan: Joe-

Just a hunch, but I'm thinking that there's a slight possibility that Felipe Lopez may not be back with the Cards in 2011.

Way back when, I thought that signing Lopez in Spring Training was an absolute steal. The guy hit .310 last year with 187 base hits! For the Cards, however, he went from semi-everyday player at insert-position-here, to everyday third baseman, to everyday second baseman (for about a week), to the Federal Witness Protection Program. This is one of the major disappointments of the 2010 season. What happened here, Joe?

Joe Strauss: I do NOT anticipate Flip's return. Lopez' performance declined precipitously after he was scratched from the July 24 lineup against the Chicago Cubs due to tardiness. The highlight of his season arrived the next night when he lashed a game-winning home run on ESPN's Sunday night stage. However, he since hit below .160, experienced knee stiffness and sequestered himself in a corner of the Cardinals clubhouse he called Club Flip. When he showed up late to the park Monday, it gave the Cardinals cause to cut ties. The Washington Nationals released Flip in 2008 before the Cardinals acquired him. He was traded last season. Flip is a talented, versatile mercenary. It's fair to say there was little motivation for him following last month's acquisition of Pedro Feliz.

Ken: Joe,

Tony goes all fungo bat on Jack Clark's comments over the weekend and then his team mails in an hour fifty eight minute yawner in Florida. He's always said "when my message isn't getting through anymore..." Sure. And may the best shortstop in camp win the 1996 starting job. What do you think, 90% chance he's back?

Joe Strauss: I believe TLR is back unless he hears something that he doesn't like from ownership or the front office. As stated before, I'm all for calling out the team if they're underperforming. But if someone wants to label them "quitters", does he mean everyone or just certain guys.
The critique is sharper if names and examples are attached. Haven't heard those yet. I'll bet we never do.

Brian: Over the last few weeks I've noticed Rasmus putting a lot more balls to the left side of the field, and he just seems to be having better at bats. Think it's a comfort thing, or did someone help him with his approach?

Joe Strauss: You make a good observation. Rasmus adjusted his stance recently and has achieved greater plate coverage. He can drive the ball to left field but hasn't shown home run power there yet. He appears more relaxed and may have taken TLR's suggestion to heart that he not be so home run conscious. There's another element to his game once Rasmus achieves greater plate discipline. Rasmus also uses a pronounced leg kick as a timing device, much the same as Matt Holliday. Some have counseled Rasmus to reduce the kick, but it's the way he hits. Comfort is an issue. Right now, Rasmus appears comfortable in the box.

hewie2: Dear SuperJoe,
What's your prognostication for who will man the keystone combination in 2011? I think Ryan and Schumaker are fine (as they showed in '08) if only the manager would play them consistently. When Schumaker hasn't played, I've been stumped as to why Miles (who hits lefties very well) usually wasn't the one to replace him. And Ryan's glove is too valuable to waste on the bench. Your thoughts?

Joe Strauss: As suggested here before, it's highly likely the Cardinals will consider a different role for Schumaker next season. He has value as an outfielder or as a hybrid 2B/OF. He makes $2.7M, which is a lot for a bench player. It will be interesting to note whether another club attaches greater value to Schu' should the Cardinals decide to pursue another second baseman. All that said, I believe Schumaker a very important part of this team. He's a grinder and a team guy. He's an example. Schumaker has been physically compromised for much of the season, a factor in his diminished production and defense.

kmar61: With Lopez gone whos next? what do we have invested in Feliz after this year,also Lohse too?? will Westbrook be on the winter roster or gone too. sorry lots of questions in one setting thanks Joe for all the input all season

kelly marrs

Joe Strauss: Feliz and Westbrook are pending free agents. I haven't heard any suggestion of more releases.

Bryan Cathey: Hi Joe. I saw a rumor that the Rockies wanted Jake Westbrook for the rest of the season,2 or 3 starts. Why would we trade him with less than 2 weeks left in the season? I would not think we would get much for him or anyone else at this point in the season?? Is Westbrook a type B free agent or not ranked?? We just lost 1 HIGH draft pick in 2011 draft when we released Felipe Lopez yesterday. I dont understand that eather?? What do you here about Westbrook & a trade to the Rockies?

Joe Strauss: It's a rumor with short legs. You assume the club is going to offer Westbrook arbitration. You overlook the financial commitment should the player accept. I question whether a compensatory pick is worth assuming a $12-$13 million contract for a No. 4 starter. The Cardinals were not going to offer Lopez arbitration, either.

Steve from Carbondale: Joe,

Are we really counting on Allen Craig, Tyler Greene, and Joe Mather to fill roles for us next year? Greene has had exposure for two years and to me has never shown much promise. Craig has struggled. Mather has been a sure out every time he comes to St. Louis. Couple these 3 with an inconsistent Brendan Ryan and Skip Schumaker, our offense will continue to be putrid next season! *Big breath* And then they're going to throw David Freese back out there, who really only played for a couple months with low power numbers. With no impact players on the verge, we look to be in a bad situation. Tell me that we're not going to rely on these crop of young players to have an impact next season, Joe!!

Joe Strauss: I believe events of the last week may suggest a review of player development is well under way. Two years ago Mather was briefly projected as Opening Day third baseman. Craig is penciled by some as noe half of a RF platoon next season. Greene could inherit Lopez' role as a utility type. Individually, each of these players has value. However, when you fill your roster with complementary players, problems such as we've seen this year are to be expected. The opinion here is the Cardinals require more proven commodities on the bench. A power bat has been absent all season. This team has gone cheap(er) on bench since the days of Spiezio and Taguchi. It's shown.

Brian: Joe:

Does Pujols realize that if he looks for the big payday from the Cardinals, it might hamper their ability to surround him with good players? (even if they add a little bit of payroll flexibility) He's already made about 90 million dollars playing, and no doubt, a nice amount from endorsements. Charlie Sheen's question to Gordon Gekko in Wall Street comes to mind, "How many yachts can you waterski behind? How much is enough?" Yeah, he's got great stats, but with him, we've only won 1 World Series, and he's been on the 2010 team all year, and they're not going anywhere. If we could get rid of Pujols and add a couple of everyday players (2nd base, SS, RF) shouldn't we at least consider it?

Joe Strauss: Your Wall Street reference gets you on the board. (One of the ChatMeister's favorite fliks.) Your question is one the club has to answer -- and soon, in my opinion. The Ryan Howard contract was a terrible development for the Cardinals. That deal puts a $25M floor on Pujols' negotiations. Years represents an additional complication. It's about to get interesting. (P.S. To say, "We've only won one World Series"... come on. Are you serious?}

Ira Meadows: With Franklin adding a nuckler to his pitch selection - this made me think of question. I remember over the years there were a number of right-handers who had success throwing it. But was there ever a lefty that had success throwing a nuckler? I can't think of one.

Joe Strauss: Wilbur Wood (1961-78) is probably the most famous. Started both games of a DH for the Chicago White Sox. Gene Bearden and Bobby Shantz are other examples. More recently, a guy named Kirt Ojala did so.

Snypes: Mr. Meister of the Chat and Surf!
According to LaRussa, Lopez was released mostly due to the fact he would get very little playing time the rest of the year. Who was behind that decision of playing time he would receive, LaRussa or Mozeliak? Does that also mean we will see less playing time for Pedro Feliz, Aaron Miles, and Randy Winn? Was there any other issues with Lopez besides tardiness? I do like the idea of letting the young guys play, but I wish that decision would have been made on Labor Day instead of about 1 week left to play.
Also, in past chats you've alluded to the Cardinals' uninspired, flat, lifeless play as them being tired and worn out (and playing with injuries), instead of them just plain as day quitting on LaRussa. If they haven't quit on LaRussa, why would they be so tired?
Sorry, but I like many Cardinals fans are tired and frustrated from watching the local 9 getting manhandled game after game by the bottom dwellers since the middle of August. I want to believe you that they haven't quit, but that's the best way I can describe their play when I watch them.

Joe Strauss: Someone needs to define "quit." Is that splitting a series in Atlanta or winning one at home against the Padres? This team was bruised by the Ludwick trade regardless of what organizational spin says. It was damaged by Freese's season-ending injury and Rasmus' two-week calf injury. Have some in the clubhouse grown weary of TLR. Absolutely. Flip may have checked out well before his release. Others are not enthralled by the lineup variations. To dismiss injuries is wrong. A number have slogged through the second half, Pujols and Molina among them. As Mo' suggested earlier this season, there is a clubhouse dynamic that could be improved. That's an uncomfortable truth for a manager, especially one as controlling as TLR. The term "underachieve" never sits well with a manager as well, because most interpret it as a loaded word suggesting a poorly motivated roster. It's fair to discuss all these elements. But to say "quit" is a bit strong.

Mike Edwards: Do you think the Cardinals will try and trade Pujols? I think the Cardinal nation is in a little panic stage right now. I think with a couple more players next year including David Freese back they should be ok. I think a legitamate lead off hitter along with a left hander in the bullpen would be a start.

Joe Strauss: The club may have to reassess its stance on Freese. Rather than project him as a given, it may have to view Freese as an option at 3B for next season.

Dave: Quick question and then I'll hang up to listen to your response.

Big IF here, but if the Cardinals get a deal done with Albert this winter, how quickly do you see it happening (by Thanksgiving?). I would imagine that deal needs to be done quickly to see how the rest of the roster shapes up.

Thanks

Joe Strauss: I would tend to agree but I'm not sure the club attaches the same urgency to it. No one has yet answered the question regarding where Team Pujols stands on this. What is Albert's motivation to sign any discounted deal before reaching free agency?

Rahb: Joe: What's the news of importance from the Tuesday night team dinner held in Pittsburgh? Any revelations on LaRussa's future as manager? Any hints on off season moves by the club? What exactly did they celebrate about this season? Since Felipe was exiled,was Freese brought in to participate? Great to see LaRue could be there after seeing the doctors. Thanks.

Joe Strauss: Commish Hummel is in Steel Town. I haven't read his account on Cardinal Bet yet. But apparently the club did save on at least one place-setting.

Barry Higgs: Joe: I was listening to fox midwest and Al seemed to say managements focus would be on Albert this winter therefore he seemed to imply Westbrook would probably go else where. If this is the case we gave Luddy away for another "rent a player" much like last years De Rosa debacle. Can you defend these moves?

Joe Strauss: I am on record as being baffled by the Ludwick move. It would have made more sense had the club pulled off another deal behind the Westbrook acquisition. Again, it's unlikely Westbrook would cut a short-term deal with the Cardinals before testing free agency.

HoosierCardsFan: Surely Albert does not operate in a vacuum and thus has to be aware on some level that the uncertainty surrounding his future with the team has played a role in the Teams' unwillingness or inability to make key additions to the club. He has to understand that if the team pays him top dollar ($30M)it directly affects their ability to add complimentary palyers to support him and amke the team competitive. I hold no grudge against him for wanting to make the most money and wanting to win championships. However, it is my belief that these two goals cannot be accomplished simultaneously in STL due to payroll limitations. Stringing this out ala the Lebron James fiasco with Cleveland would certainly affect his legacy in STL. Is Albert bound to be a Yankee or Red Sox in 2012?

f he wants the most money he can make, he will not be a Cardianl for life as we cannot af

Joe Strauss: I don't know if Albert wants what would await him in NY or Boston. Should the money not be right here, the Anaheim Angels seem an interesting possibility.

Mitch N: Albert with an extension for Tommy Hanson, Jason Heyward, and a minor leaguer? These are the thoughts that go through my head as this season mercifully draws to a close. I've been a Cards fan my whole life and a die hard one since college where my dorm culture involved a lot of ESPN and sports watching. Coincidentally my first year of college began as Albert's first season ended. We loved him on the second floor of Towers North at SEMO. I still love him but is he going to sign an extension or are we going to be held hostage by him? Is ownership going to finally step up the payroll to what it should be for the revenue that Cards fans provide? You're a brave man for continuing these chats at a time when apathy has settled over most of the fanbase and you only have the diehards left. Thanks for another season of JSL!!!

Joe Strauss: Yours is one of about 20 trade suggestions regarding Pujols. The Braves operate within many of the same constraints as the Cardinals. Acquiring a player of Albert's stature would paint them into a tight financial corner. There is no way the Braves move Heyward.

KBF: Hi Joe. First off, let me point out that while our beloved Cardinals have rolled over and died, our favorite chatmeister has been performing at a championship level all season.

With that (sincere) sucking up out of the way, an observation and a question or two.

Observation: Once again yesterday, we have Mo and Tony not on the same page. This time it's about why Flip left. Mo says, basically, it's his attitude; Tony says lack of playing time available.

This is not a huge deal, but it seems representative to me of a problem that first surfaced last year during the Chris Duncan trade. I see lots and lots of signs that are manager and general manager don't get along as well as we might want.

The question: Can these two guys co-exist?

OK, another question: Has anyone close to Mr. DeWitt noticed this rift? Do they think it matters?

Joe Strauss: TLR is very protective of clubhouse issues. He at first denied Flip was scratched due to tardiness issues in Chicago, then addressed it after it was written. He challenged any notion that Team Rasmus had issues until after it was written that Raz' had made a trade request. The front office is squeamish regarding other issues, particularly the viability of the player development system. The recent confusion about Jaime Garcia's shutdown did suggest a communication issue. Mo and TLR have a professional relationship. Is it on the same level as what TLR enjoyed with Jocko. No. There is mutual respect. It became clear with last week's front-office realignment that Mo' is asserting himself more as GM. How that plays with the manager should become obvious in the next several weeks.

NY Card Fan: Joe-

Tyler Greene doesn't exactly seem to be seizing his opportunity. He still looks very tentative at the plate and in the field. I'm really starting to wonder if this former number one pick will ever be a real major league player. I hope that the Cards haven't written his name in ink on next year's roster. He still has a lot to prove, and he needs to come to Spring Training an earn a roster spot, IMO. Thoughts?

Joe Strauss: Greene still has a tendency to play tight at this level. It was obvious in spring training and remains so. Few doubt his ability to contribute to a contender. But his problems in the field suggest an inability to relax and play his game. Moving positions daily is another complication. And, yes, he will have to earn a spot next spring.

Terry Lambert: Do believe LaRusa puts to much presure on the players that they cannot relax and play the game. Or do they fed off his intensity. THANKS.

Joe Strauss: It cuts both ways depending on the player.

uremovich: Hey Joe,

What is preventing a major overhaul of the Cardinals organization?

1. Confidence in the current product (just a bad year)
2. Fear of change (why mess with 3 million attendance)
3. No vision for alternative (we've always done it this way)
4. None of the above

Thanks for your insight.

Joe Strauss: Budget and overrating the player development system. I guess that qualifies as None of the Above.

Brian: this team seems like a utter and complete mess, so i can believe that they will be able to address all the holes in the off season. are the cardinals officially in semi rebuilding mode?

Joe Strauss: The franchise needs to determine whether Pujols is part of its future or not. There are huge ramifications to the answer, whatever it is.

alabamacardsfan: Love your insight, Joe...I have a hard time understanding why Tony (who I support) keeps playing Feliz,Winn, Miles - all known commodities - instead of using the young players in every possible situation...chances are none of those guys are back ! Feliz's at bats could be used by Green, Descalso, etc. What say you - what is Tony's rationale for this ?

Another comment - I want LaRussa back. These fan boards dont represent the majority of fans, in my opinion. A lot of these jokers are so beaten down by life,spouses, bosses,etc. that the only say they have in anything is to post negative comments - they somehow feel empowered .

The greatest attribute that Tony has is managing the egos and personalities in a clubhouse for 6 months - that never is talked about - but I feel it is much more important than actual game management decisions, that I question constantly....Comments ?

Joe Strauss: TLR hates to concede anything, especially a pennant race. It's a fair point to note TLR's ability to handle a clubhouse. I personally believe he doesn't have anything against younger players. However, his expectations may place a burden on a younger talent less adept at reading his manager's moods. It is also fair to say that the manager's willingness to publicly absolve some players for actions that are portrayed as high crimes when committed by others adds to the confusion. These younger players are hardly in a position to speak out, though Rasmus has offered a small window with some of his comments this season.

Paul: Hello Joe:

Is there anyway to quantify how much of an impact the Ryan Ludwick trade had on the Cardinal's performance? I realize this is largely subjective, but it seems to me that after the Ludwick trade, the team as a whole lost confidence in themselves and just seemed resigned to getting through the season.

Thanks for your input.

Paul

Joe Strauss: I'll say this. Even when in a funk, Ludwick found a way to contribute in RBI situations. Coincidentally, the Cardinals have struggled badly in those situations since his departure. (Lud' led the league in average w/RISP at the time of his trade.) The deal confused a team that was in first place at the time. When offensive help failed to arrive, it made it easier to rationalize the club's spastic production.

oskeewowow: Does Waino have a shot at the Cy Young?

Joe Strauss: It's Roy Halladay's to lose at this point. Waino' must win 20 to receive strong consideration. It's unfair, but his team's meltdown is a negative.

Joe: As a St Louis ex pat living in Washington DC, I don’t get to see the Cardinals win when they come to lowly Nationals Park because they cannot win on the road! I understand the Cardinals have made the playoffs 8 times with losing records on the road, and it is hard to win on the road in the majors, but the unsettling fact that the Cardinals will once again have a losing record on the road this season. A stat that looms almost just as heavy as their inept performances against teams that are sub 500. Combine the two, and there goes the Central. How does management/ Tony address this problem, one that continues to haunt the team wherever it goes and cost us the division this year?

Joe Strauss: The Cardinals used to get fat on bad teams. They're getting beat by them this year. You probably don't remember, but the Cardinals' worst road record during TLR's tenure came in 2006. Take care of business at home and within the division. Unfortunately, the Cardinals have appeared their flattest when playing Houston, Pittsburgh and Chicago this season. When a team is this poor fundamentally, it is vulnerable against anyone. This team has been challenged by fundamentals more than any of the nine TLR clubs I've covered.

Joe: Joe, if Tony cannot be held responsible for this season, when can he be?
He plays head games with Rasmus, Ludwick, and Ryan, but Lopez plays and gives nothing game after game. Now he gets released and Tony still sticks up for him. Why does he love the guys who don't produce like Duncan, Taguchi, Lopez etc. but gives a hard time to guys who have real talent like Ludwick, Rasmus etc.? The media needs to do its job even if it is uncomfortable. This situation is obvious to even a casual fan and makes the so called experts look lame and stupid for not being honest. Tony needs to go, along with a lot of his pets!!

Save "the who could do a better job" . Tony has won 1 world series in 15 years with probably the greatest 1st baseman, 3rd baseman, centerfielder, in the history of the Cardinals. He has had superior talent in a subpar division. Nobody should be overwhelmed by his accomplishments.

Joe Strauss: Your opinion is noted. I wonder how you would define success.

Tim: Joe,

Lopez is being branded as the cancer in the clubhouse. If that's true, why would Pujols and others not not have internally corrected the problem long before now? I just think the cancer is larger than is apparent on the surface. This team has no chemistry and that makes no sense with people like Waino, Carp, Pujols and Molina driving the bus.

I'm no Schu fan but it seemed that he and Ryan played most of the year like insecure high schoolers on a college team. That didn't exist last year that I could see. Something stinks!

What is your take?

Joe Strauss: Lopez moved lockers in mid-season, away from Pujols into a closeted corner of the clubhouse. Lopez explained the move as a desire for more "space." However, his interactions with Pujols became noticeably less frequent. As Mo' said Tuesday, reasons for his release were not confined to the two chronicled instances of his tardiness. Regarding chemistry, the Cardinals' appeared their most comfortable following last June's acquisition of Mark DeRosa. He had a knack of involving everyone in hijinx, whether it be good-natured ribbing or impromptu football games in the clubhouse. This team has often appeared to be walking on eggshells, if not glass.

KRob_DragBunter: Yadi has caught almost 100 more innings than any other catcher in baseball this year. Between his reported knee issues and the LaRue situation, how much confidence is the club willing to put in Pagnozzi or Anderson to be an adequate back up next year?

Joe Strauss: Not enough that either Pagnozzi or Anderson would significantly reduce Molina's innings load. I believe backup catcher one of this team's underrated needs. The continued wear on Molina may put him at risk following his current contract, which expires after 2012.

SED: Why is the stock of Matt Pagnozzi so much higher than Bryan Anderson? It appears that Anderson is a much better hitter. I have also heard that Mike Matheny is a fan of Anderson. Thanks for your input.

Joe Strauss: The club rates Pagnozzi a superior receiver and handler of pitchers.

steadfast: Is the departure of Lopez an excuse to point to one guy and say ,"he was the problem the entire time?" or are there larger problems with the chemistry of the team?

Joe Strauss: Lopez is/was not the only issue.

johnroyboy: Thank you for taking my questions. I'll be concise because I know you are a busy man, and that Mike Smith can be a tough editor:
Given the number of managerial openings, do you believe La Russa will give, or the Cardinals will push, for an early answer on his future?
And if he decides to leave ... I notice with interest that Joe Torre leaves the door slightly ajar on managing again. Remembering the standing ovation he was given here when the Cardinals observed his birthday and his longstanding affection for St. Louis, do you believe there's potential for a match?

Joe Strauss: Mo' has publicly stated his desire for a rapid resolution to the manager's future. If TLR were to leave, Torre's name would be mentioned. Remember, the brewery ordered Torre's firing in 1995 before selling to the current group. Torre is also 70, meaning if he takes another job it will be a short-term assignment. He would also want to import his own people. As noted before, few fully appreciate the potential turnover when La Russa departs.

Toby: Joe,

Judging by the solid numbers that Lance Lynn put up in his first year in Memphis, is it a possibility that he may be the next in line to get a crack at a spot in the rotation next season, or will he follow in the footsteps of McClellan, Hawksworth, etc, and possibly start off in mid relief? Just having another starter that could put up a decent season without paying a fortune for them, and allocating that money towards a different position player would make a huge impact, or so it would seem to me.

Thanks!

Joe Strauss: Lynn has pitched his way into the picture. McClellan has waited three years for a chance. If the organization decides to fill from within, KMac wins all ties.

BobinDenver: Joe-These chats are great. Guess I'm riding the Rockies bandwagon at this point of the season. Most glaring needs for the Cards next season? Mine-
2nd base
3rd base (do not think we can count on Freese's ankles)
Solid back-up catcher
5th starter (Westbrooke?)

Also, if Tony is not back, who else besides Jose O. to manage? Sandberg, Simmons, Torre?

Thanks

Joe Strauss: There's a big question to be answered regarding RF. Next week I'll present a handful of managerial options. Oquendo, Simmons, Torre and T. Pendleton will appear on it.

bill wacker: why are cardinals so deicated to their manager?when other teams lose and they are supposed to win they fire their manager.this will be a 500 season subpar and underachieving or not they didn't respond to tony.time for new era of manager in st louis thx

Joe Strauss: I must have missed the announcement when the Braves fired Bobby Cox or the Anaheim Angels dismissed Mike Scioscia. Perhaps some attention might be paid to how the Cardinals construct their team now relative to 5-6 years ago.

Luis Cantu: Is there any chance that La Russa will hit the road? As a fan since 1949,
to say that I am dissapointed is the understatement. I believe that 40 percent of the losses were manager losses and not the players.

Joe Strauss: You have got to be kidding. Unfortunately, Eddie Dyer is no longer available.

John S: Chatmeister
I know your don't suffer sarcasm or rhetorical questions from us tsunamists, so I won't go there. But why can't the cards hire a GM who signs a player who puts up numbers like these: 4th in the NL in hitting, 5th in RBI, 4th in hits, 4th in total bases, 6th in slugging, 5th in OPS and tied for 7th in all of baseball in doubles.

On the other hand, maybe the naysayers in Cardinal Nation should give Johnny Mo some credit for signing Matt Holliday !

thanks
John

Joe Strauss: So noted. The Holliday acquisition and re-signing arguably represents the high point of Mo's term. Funny, haven't read much criticism of Holliday's desire/production lately.

twahhh: I'm assuming so, but do the Cardinals pay Felipe's salary for the entire year if he was released?

Joe Strauss: Yes.

steve: So Joe,

If you have the choice to roll Penny's money into a contract for either Westbook or Uggla who would you choose? (Personally I'd prefer Uggla)

Joe Strauss: This team's big move this winter needs to focus on offense.

Paul: Long-time reader, first-time poster. Now that we have a body of work to evaluate, what common tactics, if any, has Walt Jocketty used to build winners in both St. Louis and Cincinnati? And have the current powers-that-be in St. Louis abandoned any of these tactics?

Joe Strauss: Jocko struck gold in acquiring Scott Rolen. Some of his other ex-Cardinal hires (Izzy, Springer, Edmonds) have experienced mixed results. Miguel Cairo was very good for most of this year. Jocketty benefited from a minor-league system that has proved productive lately. Predecessor Wayne Krivsky deserves some credit here. Jocketty also imported much of his former front office from St. Louis. People like Jerry Walker, Cam Bonifay and Mike Squires are very good. Mo' will be hiring two special assistants in upcoming weeks. Those are important moves. Right or wrong, Jocko doesn't have much use for the sabermetrics crowd.

Alice Dean: I was just wondering if any one else thinks our hitting coach is doing very good this year. There hitting is real bad, it has been all year. Why don't people think he is to blame? Just wondering what you think.

Joe Strauss: Statistically, the Cardinals are comparable to last season. However, the whole does not equal the sum of its parts. Much can be said for the team's record, of course. It's very difficult to evaluate a hitting coach. TLR has said as much. However, there should probably be cause for some concern when the same issues noted in April and May remain in September -- namely, the lack of adjustments made and the heavy reliance on video. McGwire is an advocate of the top-hand-off approach, a move popularized by Charlie Lau and championed by TLR. It doesn't work for everybody, as we've seen this year.

twahhh: Last year, as the division was clinched and the playoffs were a lock for the Birds, they had a monumental collapse that carried into the post-season.
Do you think it's any coincidence that they've been terrible at the end of both of the last two seasons? I am never one to jump on TLR, but his attitude does collapse at the end of seasons lately.
Are the two possibly connected? If not, what would you point to as a reason for this result two years in a row?

Joe Strauss: Coincidentally, Pujols was less effective in September the last two years. He required elbow surgery last October and is nursing a sore left elbow this year. As stated before, this team frequently appears worn down. TLR loves a team's "relentless" nature. However, this has rarely seemed an easy season. The frequently lineup and role changes have proved unsettling to some. The middle defense, except for catcher, has been uneven all season. Coincidenally, the middle defense includes three players whose status has risen and fallen several times in 2010. This team needed help within its rotation and its lineup. It helped the rotation by subtracting from the lineup. Obviously, it hasn't worked.

smagsmoker: Hey Joe,
The stst on the postgame last night blew me away. When Cards score 3 or less, their record is 7-54 and 4 or more 70-19. That blew me away. Pass along to the front office that we need a minimum of two big bats in the lineup next year to fill the four feeble holes at 3B,SS,2B, and RF. Thanks for letting us vent throughout the year.

Joe Strauss: It's very revealing. The pitching hasn't been the problem this season. That stat would also suggest that the proper two additions (plus added depth) could make this team very good again very quickly. Finding the proper two additions is easier said than done, and comes at a cost.

albuquerquered: Hey Joe,
It's hard to go back and think of, "what if." But what if Brad Penny and Kyle Lohse had not gone down on back to back days? What if David Freese had been able to play 140 games this year? As constructed out of spring training the Cardinals were thought to be the favorites in the division, though lacking depth. Considering the Red's what ifs (what if Scott Rolen has a rebound season, what if Votto plays like an MVP?), was Card's management overly optimistic, or did they have a realistic perspective on the post season chances of this club? In other words, were the Reds really odds on favorites to win the division but we just didn't know it? Thanks for your response.

Joe Strauss: If the team stays whole, it wins the division. However, few teams avoid injuries over an entire schedule. The Cardinals built a team to win a mediocre division. The Reds refused to play along.

pobrien3: I think the cancellation of the Cardinals fall instructional camp is another sign that ownership will be unwilling to increase payroll enough
to sign Pujois and still allow enough payroll for other players as they become eligible for arbitration and free agency. I am also
concerned about the number of key players who probably are entering the
downside of their careers--certainly Carpenter and Franklin but perhaps even Pujois and Wainwright.

Joe Strauss: There are logistical complications to maintaining an instructional league presence. Some within the industry have noted, however, the contradiction between a team that has thrown in with player development and its elimination of "instructs" the last two years. One wonders if an arrangement might be had with a team on the Gulf Coast to share a facility. I don't make a connection between this decision and Pujols' future.

Cards Fan in Michigan: Which current Cardinals are not under contract for next year?

Joe Strauss: Miles, Penny, Winn, LaRue, D. Reyes, Westbrook, Feliz and Suppan are pending free agents. Trever Miller's option is vested, so he is assured of being here in 2011.

Ron S.: Carpenter's contract ends after next year. He's getting older. He'll likely lose more of his "stuff" in the upcoming years. What do you do with him after 2011?

Joe Strauss: It doesn't matter what I'd do with him. Should the club re-sign Pujols, it's hard to imagine them allocating similar money to what Carpenter current makes to retain the '05 Cy Young Award winner. Carpenter has been remarkably productive this season despite dealing with a series of mechanical issues. He remains one of the league's Top 10, maybe Top 6 starters.

Simple10: Wave Master,

A few weeks ago, you stated that "individuals in uniform" were refering to Rasmus as Luhnow's baby. One, were those uniformed members of the management team or uniformed players? Second, how does that discord comport with your reference today that more than just Flip was out of step with the TLR parade? We know you know. The question is will you deal?

Joe Strauss: Not for free. In some instances you get everything I know. In this one, for now, you get some of what I know. Sorry.

al czervik: as a esteemed baseball expert, in your honest opinion does it really make sense for the cardinals to sign pujols to a long term deal when they have so many needs? just playing devils advocate and would like your opinion based on the business side.

Thanks,

anonymous person that has since gone into hiding.

Joe Strauss: That's a third-rail question for the franchise. The club is in a no-win in some respects. Sign Albert and you're payroll flexibility is sapped. Let him walk or trade him and you risk a tremendous PR backlash. This is a club terrified of its players speaking in anything beyond cliches. Uncomfortable truths are to be cleared from the table. It's one reason why the media blackout regarding Albert's situation has worked well for the club, regardless of its customers' desire to know.
Just remember Sept. 5. The manager confirms a P-D report of Rasmus' two-month-old trade request and the player is taken into a room for some post-game "re-education." The player emerges denying the request. Laughable. It shows a lack of respect for the media, to be sure. It also plays its fan base for chumps.

rkahn: Hey Joe, hope you're ready to put on your Maury Chass hat as business issues become the offseason topic du jour for these Cardinals. Speaking of which...if Pujols is re-signed, what do you think it's going to take in terms of total ML player payroll to field a reasonable supporting cast? And can DeWitt & Co make money (or at least not go belly up because we'd hate to see that) at whatever level it will take? One thing the owners have in their pocket is the price increase they will be able to impose for the first time on ballpark founders who paid their seat license in lump sum back in '04. I think we're all bracing for the Pujols tax.

Also, I noticed in a tweet of several days ago you were calling some broadcast media poachers "chipmunks" but according to D. Halberstam in his excellent book October 1964, that name was taken years ago by Jimmy Cannon who used it to describe the new breed of sports reporters (eg. Maury Allen, Stan Isaacs) back in the early '60's. So you'll have to find a different more derogatory nickname for the poachers. I kind of like poachers. Thanks.

Joe Strauss: I've stated numerous times that a $110 million payroll is an eventuality if Pujols stays. And your point is well taken about the lapsed price freeze on Founders' tickets. Renewal rates are to be watched....
Whatever term you prefer, poaching has become more prevalent in STL media than on a Kenyan game preserve. These are many of the same outlets that rely on regular spoon feedings by the major league franchises in town. Several years ago I was actually asked on-air one night by local talent "do we really need to know" if McGwire used PED's? No, we just need to keep the rightsholder's "partner" happy. CandyLand.

Thom Wilborn: Interesting developments with the Cardinals. I'm sure you are watching with the same amazement that many of us are. Being objective, it may be easier than for us avid fans, but it is sad to watch.

But I for one do not believe money is going to be poured or even trickled into this team by Mr. DeWitt. So should we as fans be hopeful for some grand changes over the winter, or faced with looking at more of the same in 2011?

Looks like the season assessment meetings are beginning early. And thanks for your expert insight into the Cardinals game this season. You are a must read for fans.

Thom

Joe Strauss: It's up to the fans. They an choose to roll over for a tepid product or demand more. The flaws within this team were obvious in March and became fatal by late August. I would expect substantive change this winter. Right now the club bases budget on 3.2 million attendance. That an amazing commodity. Teams in bigger markets such as Atlanta and Houston would kill for that leverage. Thank you for your kind words.

Max Schmidt: Hey Joe,
I asked Gordo this earlier in the week...rather than naming specific players one would like the Cardinals to trade for or sign (Jacoby Ellsbury, Orlando Hudson...oops), what type of player do you think the front office will look to get in the off season. Meaning, position they play, power hitter, base stealing threat, etc.
Thanks,
Max

Joe Strauss: Just for that you've received the JSL!!! death penalty. If you're asking Tipsheet, there is obviously a lack of institutional control.

waterdog: Do you think there is a chance they re-consider putting Holliday in RF next year and bringing in a heavier bat for left?

Joe Strauss: I believe if Holliday is willing it has to be on the table.

renomike99: Joe, when used as a utility player earlier in the year, Felipe Lopez performed quite well. At the start of this year, nobody in Cardinal management believed that Felipe Lopez would be the regular third baseman. Yet, because of injuries and poor planning within the Cardianal front office, Lopez was thrust into that role. It is hardly surprising that Lopez became exposed when made an everyday regular at an unnatural position.

Beyond all this, even were Felipe Lopez to hit .300 and play perfect 3rd base, the Cardinals would probably still have finished second this year. Seems to me that Cardinal management had a meeting and decided to make Lopez the villian for an extremely disappointing season. My thought is there are other, more deserving, scapegoats. Jeff Luhnow, and William DeWitt Jr. come to mind. Your thoughts.

Joe Strauss: The whole villain talk is a little over the top. No one is saying Flip is the sole reason for the season's failure. My take is that Tuesday's action addressed a single player, not an epidemic.

Justin: One of your colleagues recently suggested that LaRussa has earned the right to return next season, a notion I strongly reject based on the last four seasons, if not this season alone. Nevertheless, it appears increasingly likely that our present manager will be returning. Do you believe that he will be capable of making ANY changes to his approach that could lead this team to a different outcome, and if so, what changes? Basically, I am asking you to tell me why I should bother watching next season when the same problems (manager, hitting coach, young players the manager doesn't like) will be present in 2011.

Joe Strauss: I get the sense that the front office will impress several points before announcing TLR's return. If nothing else, an attempt will be made to offer a more unified front on organizational direction. I don't know if Mo' is prone to make a move on the coaching staff. However, philsophical questions are fair game, from my understanding.

David: If Carl Crawford makes it to free agency, any chance that the Cardinals will make a run for him (pending Pujols's situation, of course)?

Joe Strauss: Crawford in LF, Raz' in CF and Holliday in RF strikes me as compelling. I find it hard to believe the club can manipulate resources to make that happen if Pujols is extended. In this instance it would be fun to be wrong.

rvines: Don't you think the season should be over before everyone gets wrapped up in the discussion as to is going to win the MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year,etc. I think Wainwright's admission of this week he may have been pushing for the Cy award recently and broke his concentration. Pujols does not deserve the MVP, Garcia has no chance for the Rookie and with this last month Adam may have eliminated himself from the Cy. All of this can be very distracting to trying to win a game here and there. What do you think?

Joe Strauss: I don't agree with your cause and affect. Albert is playing hurt. The Cardinals determined Garcia was pitching fatigued. For most of the last four weeks Wainwright has been pitching with indifferent support.

Jeff: Looking at today's lineup, TLR has it stacked with lefties with Descalso at 3rd. However, Pagnozzi again gets the start over Anderson at catcher with Yadi getting a break. Is it safe to assume at this point that Anderson's earlier recalls over Pagnozzi was Mo's call over TLR's preference? Also, safe to assume Anderson will not be the backup next year so long as TLR is managing? There is nothing to be gained at this point in the year by playing Pagnozzi. You know what you have with him. Thanks.

Joe Strauss: I've written for two years that Anderson does not receive strong support due to his pitch-calling and mechanics behind the plate. Many have twisted that into a personal attack. I'm answering the question. The Cardinals apparently believe they know what they have with Anderson as well. Anderson's value peaked two or three years ago. The front office held firm that he would eventually become a part of the major-league club. Perhaps he will. But the manager is offering his opinion via the lineup card.

Tone-Dog: My friends and I believe if this meltdown continues and the Cards fall to 3rd place (or .500 or God forbid, under) then Ownership will have no choice but to tell TLR goodbye and good luck. Your thoughts?

Joe Strauss: And I'm the cynic?

Brad: Chatmeister, Skip has been physically compromised this year? That's the first I've heard of that. I'm a huge fan of his (I'm the one person in the stands wearing a Schumaker jersey) so I'm hoping to see him have greater success in the future. What injuries has he been playing through?

Joe Strauss: Schumaker suffered significant trauma to his left wrist and forearm in July. It is not known whether he will require postseason surgery. He has also dealt with a leg issue.

mzipprich: Hey Joe,
the Brian fellow, I'm sure meant "We've only won one World Series" (with Pujols) No need to be a !@^*&^ about it. Unless you were belittling the man to mean "be greatful you have won one world series. If that's the case, having 2 co aces, the MV3, the games 1a or 1b best player, and other commodoties, yes I believe there should have been another world series in there and agree with Brian's "only won one World Series" statement.

Joe Strauss: I don't believe the Cardinals were the game's best team in 2006. Perhaps we disagree. I believe they were the best team in 2004 but flamed out against Boston after a grind through the NLCS. They overachieved to reach 100 wins in '05. On balance, one championship seems about right.

tc22: Joe,

The Cardinals have to be one of the most pathetically underachieving teams in years, if not decades! A pure superstar in Pujols, two Cy Young candidate pitchers in Waino and Carp, another star in Holliday and a record of less than .500 since mid May! How does this team rank in your career of covering professional baseball teams?

Joe Strauss: This team and the '98 Baltimore Orioles are the most baffling I've covered.

doc44: Hi Joe... Really enjoy your take on all things Cardinal...
I recall Pujols saying something to the effect that he wanted to play on a competitive team. Yet it seems to me that his currently unsigned status is damaging the team, perhaps in the dugout, and certainly in the front office. The unpopular Ludwick deal seemed to come directly from payroll issues caused in part by awaiting the big blow that will be Pujols new contract.
How do you think it will affect next year's club if he does, or does NOT, resign this winter?

Joe Strauss: I believe you may see much of the same paralysis if no direction is determined. Publicly, the club challenges this notion.

RKa: Can we assume the same "counsel" you site for Rasmus has counseled Holliday in private workouts to reduce the leg kick? Or are you not here to talk about the past?

Joe Strauss: Not the same person. But you may be on to something.

Wrigleyville Rick: Sir Tsunami--I have learned a great deal about the nuance of this fine game by reading your weekly chats over the course of this unravelling season. In retrospect, I see the beginning of the end as late July--a couple of extra inning home games in brutal heat, followed by perhaps the most listless performance in recent memory in a brutal weekend series in my my neighborhood. That's the weekend Raz asked for a trade, and all the beer in Wrigley couldn't buy a defensive double play. Out of gas with a third of the season left. . .You squared up the depth issue in spring training, a much better assessment than the front office. After resolving the Pujols elephant, what are the next three or four priorities for next year?

Joe Strauss: Finding a upgraded offensive presence, whether at 3B, 2B or SS. Determining whether Franklin is next year's closer. Fortifying depth issues while acknowledging that most of the answers lie outside the organization. The club also needs to acquire a fallback for the rotation if McClellan is not the answer as No. 5 starter. The fallback needs to be more than a Rich Hill type.

DAVE: WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS TRADE BOGGS FOR DESMOND SS FROM WASHINGTON NATS

Joe Strauss: Don't think the Nats would do it. But it's an interesting thought. Desmond also has serious defensive deficiencies that may warrant a position switch. He's made 33 errors and would likely cause Dave Duncan to erupt within the season's first two weeks.

Kevin: Joe,

Do you see the club stalling on the Pujols negotiations until most of the other FA's have signed this winter only to use that as an excuse for fielding an inferior product in 2011 or is that too negative a question to pose?

Thanks,
Kevin

Joe Strauss: Not at all. But probably too speculative to answer.

David: You mentioned earlier that some Cy Young voters think wins are lucky, and then you also mentioned that the team's meltdown will hamper Wainwright's shot at the Cy as well. If wins are not considered important, shouldn't losses and overall team performance not be considered important as well? Or is this just the thought of a small but apparently vocal and contentious group of voters?
If wins aren't considered important, how is it rationable that Wainwright more than likely would've won last year had McClellan not blown his 20th win, but because that happened and Wainwright only had 19 wins he got 3rd place?

Joe Strauss: Roy Halladay didn't pitch in the NL last season. As for Waino' in 2009, the weight of a 20th win is enormous, whether the spreadsheet guys admit it or not. Especially when you lead the league in innings and have one of the league's best ERA's.

Hawgdaddy: I need to replenish my bank account after a three team parlay that included Baylor and Hawaii.....Can you make it up to me with some quality picks for this weekend?

Joe Strauss: Check Twitter tomorrow. The Hawaii loss was ridiculous, as you know.

agtenor: YES WE ARE ALL SERIOUS WHEN WE ASK OR STATE THERE HAS BEEN ONLY 1 WORLD SERIES WIN UNDER tlr. WHEN IS ANYONE IN THE CARDIANL SPORTS MEDIA GOING TO STOP BEING MANAGEMENT MYRMIDONS AND LOOK AT THE TEAM SITUATIONS WITH OPEN EYES?!?!

Joe Strauss: I don't know, but I'm going to have to phone Oxford attendee Junior Goold to find out what a Myrmidon is.

Joe Strauss: Well, being called one of the ant people by a ChatHead is going to end this one for me. I've enjoyed the discourse and the venting. We'll be back next for the final regular season segment of Joe Strauss Live!!!, the gift that keeps on giving. Enjoyed it as always. As noted earlier, this week's college football investments will be found @JoeStrauss on Twitter later this week. Enjoy.

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