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Joe Strauss: All right, sports fans. The Tsunami is rolling through the Busch Stadium press box as half of a Cardinal fans summer fantasy, day ball and full-contact chat!!! The draft's done, the Cardinals are readying for the second of a two-game set against the Brewers and the fan base is in full cardiac arrest over the team's retreat to two games behind the Cincinnati Reds. What could be better for business? Let's get today's session rolling. Feel free to ask the standard, the bizarre and anything relevant to the game as it progresses. This could get a little dicey. Again, no boogie boarders allowed.


DE_Schmitt: Joe, what happened to the arch design in the outfield grass at Busch? Thanks. I couldn't find the Bill Findley chat on the Cardinals website.

Joe Strauss: To be honest, I haven't asked. But the brutal St. Louis summer has taken its toll on the field, which was resodded during the last road trip. It's a big threadbare just beyond the infield and in foul territory on the third-base side. Maintenance is much more of a challenge. Things haven't looked as good since the Eagles concert. Coincidence? Perhaps... And here come the Cardinals!!!


dub the beachcomber: Joe, is there any chance we'll see Tyler Greene at third base? Is there interest in any third basemen going through waivers? Does the team have the ammo to make a trade happen? Thanks

Joe Strauss: When the Cardinals optioned Greene Tuesday, they sent along orders that he receive much exposure at third base while with Memphis. As the team waits on Greene, it remains glued to the waiver wire to see who is available. So far the options have not been palatable. There is much urgency to upgrading the position as names like Craig Counsell, Brandon Inge, Edwin Encarnacion and Geoff Blum circulate. Two weeks ago the Cardinals believed they could be picky. Not anymore. John Mozeliak would like to make something happen ASAP. Problem: The Atlanta Braves are now in the same market following the loss of Chipper Jones for the rest of the season.
Game Update: Waino' zips through the first inning. The Cardinals badly need Waino' to be bueno today.


Steve: Joe:
Why doesn't TLR use Aaron Miles at 3rd. I cannot believe he would be any worse than Lopez and he can hit. As far as I am concerned he cost the Cards the game tonight. Garcia would have pitched a shutout and probably for at least 7 innings instead of 6. Heck bring up the guy from AA he could field better than Lopez; and Lopez isn't hitting anyway.
Just how many games has Lopez cost us?

Joe Strauss: I sense a rhetorical question. Lopez has been overexposed the last month. He is not a comfortable third baseman (obviously) and his offensive struggles have only fed his struggles. During a postgame visit to Club Flip after Tuesday's game, he accepted responsibility and seemed embarrassed by the role his defensive lapses played in the game. Still, I've rarely heard the Cardinals be as up front about a need as they are currently about fortifying third base.


mtomto: ChatMeister--I'm weighing in early.

Are you willing to go on record about this team? Do YOU think it can do anything on post-season, ASSUMING it wins the Central--And that's a major assumption. I say no (to winning the Central) and no (obviously beyond that). Just can't see it.

Do you have the Kool Aid cup in hand?

Joe Strauss: Just got back from the FSMidwest booth so I am on a major sugar rush. Watching Jim Hayes inflate balloons is a treat. The man is a true master at his craft.

Seriously, one doesn't have to ride shotgun with TLR on Opening Day to believe this team is talented enough to win the division and advance in the postseason. Any team with two frequently dominant starters such as Wainwright and Carpenter has a chance in any series. Once into October, the Cardinals and Phillies appear especially imposing.

Interestingly, the ChatMeister believes that the two teams with the biggest divison leads -- San Diego and Texas -- would likely be considered the longest shots to win the World Series.
I still believe the Cardinals emerge from the Central. But I can certainly understand the fan base's agitation over a bunch whose performance deviates so wildly day to day.

And, yes, I am swigging from a Cal Eldred autographed Kool Aid cup. ("Oh Yeah")


kjoe: I cringed when I saw Tony's Tuesday lineup for one major reason--Molina has a terrible history of hitting with the pitcher on deck. He has 180 ab this year in the 6th spot--hitting .317. He has 140 ab in the 7th spot, hitting .171 after his 0-4 last night, including a dp and the last out of the game.

During his career, batting 8th, his .237 average is far below his total average. He is not an 8th, (or 7th when the pitcher is 8th) place hitter.

Joe Strauss: So noted.


Bryan Cathey: Hi Joe. Why did the Cardinals not offer or even talk money with Austin Wilson?? If other teams thought they could have signed him he would have been taken in the 1st round. We had him but didnt even talk money?? WHY?? That dont make sense??? If he would have signed for 1st round money, knowing that other clubs whould have drafted him in the 1st round if they could have signed him. WHY not offer him 1st round money?? THANK YOU. Bryan.

Joe Strauss: The Cardinals would have had to pay Wilson significantly more than they did first-rounder Zach Cox ($3.2M). It is interesting that the Cardinals at one point insisted they were in play for Wilson but later claimed never to have talked money with the family. Yes, it does seem odd. If you're going to put on the full-court press for Wilson, hosting him for two days in St. Louis then visiting his L.A. home, turning up the pressure with a big offer would seem logical. However, Mo' and v-p of scouting and player development Jeff Luhnow insist money was never discussed and that Wilson was dead set on attending Stanford. It would be more than a little uncomfortable for the club to have its rejected offer on the street. But I hear you. It's difficult to characterize any negotiation as serious if finances aren't discussed.


azbruce: Mr. Strauss:

If a confrontation with the other team is what it takes to get the Cardinals fired up to play a hard nine, then there is something seriously wrong with the team. Even though the Cardinals are a flawed team, which you have said on several occasions, they is absolutely no sound reason for their playing down to inferior teams like the Astros, the Cubs and the Brewers. I believe that tendency falls squarely on the shoulders of the manager; but he is too busy tipping his cap to the other pitcher or to the other team to even consider that the Cardinals’ inconsistent play might have something to do with his leadership. I realize it’s too late this season, but is there any hope that the manager won’t be back in 2011?

Thanks, Bruce

Joe Strauss: There is the chance that this is TLR's last rodeo. But I find it hard to categorize this season as a referendum on his leadership. Yes, there have been several isolated incidents in which TLR and key players have had friction. The issues with Colby Rasmus have been real and are not completely resolved. (The latest occurred Tuesday when Rasmus believed himself unavailable due to a strained right calf before being sent out as a pinch hitter.) What you hope for, others fear. Again, if the team is fundamentally flawed, to what extent is that the manager's fault?


Phil: Now granted, the Troy Glaus trade didn't work out too well because of injuries, but why in the world did we trade Scott Rolen in the first place? I know his offense had dipped, but wouldn't you rather have Rolen there now instead of Lopez et al?

Also, do you think John Jay is the real deal? And why would Jay be lifted for Craig, even if a lefty was pitching?

Joe Strauss: Rolen demanded to be traded due to his differences with TLR. He was also a physically diminished player at the time. For Mo' to acquire Troy Glaus (who amassed 99 RBI in 2008) with such little leverage appeared a master stroke. Even had the Cardinals retained Rolen, he would have been a free agent after this season. (The deal Rolen struck with the Cardinals in 2002 also included a $4 million bonus at the end of this season.) There was no way the relationship between Rolen and TLR could be salvaged, especially after TLR's broadside of the third baseman at the 2007 winter meetings. Rolen will appear on many MVP ballots after this season. Flip is struggling at an uncomfortable position.
As for Jay, I'm intrigued. To anoint him an everyday major-league player at this point is premature. He at least fits within a RF platoon for '11. Healthy, he is an intriguing talent.
TLR (who was still suspended) didn't seem enamored with with the Craig-for-Jay move in Saturday's loss to the Cubs. I don't think many were.


LawrenceKScardsfan: Surfmeister,

Surveying the field of potential 3rd basemen that could clear waivers, none of the potentials look like they could bring any reasonable bat strength to the lineup. Many Cardinal fans appear to be desperate to add a third baseman, despite the limitations of the current crop (eg. Inge, 255 avg and 8 HR). I believe Craig offers a better alternative. In spite of Tony's reluctance to play him there, isn't it time he got the chance?

Cutbacks still gnarly dude!

Joe Strauss: I respectfully disagree. Craig is a young player. Exposing him daily within a pennant race at a position where he is considered a minus defender hardly helps his development or this team's chances.


Grant: With LaRue and Stavinoah being out would Motte (assuming he'd be healthy) be the emergency catcher?

Joe Strauss: Motte is currently on the DL. Even if available, he would never be used in that way. Had the Cardinals needed a catcher in Cincinnati last Tuesday's scrum, Aaron Miles would have strapped it on.


Catman: Joe Almighty,

The Cardinals appear to be stuck with continued 3B defensive miseries! Flip has slowly crumbled under the stress defensively which now has also negatively effected his hitting. Tony and Mo seem to be trying to resolve the problem, but without any in house options and no Inge or Wigginton on the horizon, it seems like the Cardinals just might be in serious trouble! Their season long lack of defensive depth at 3B (and 2B if we're honest)just might be enough to hand the Reds the NL Central title! Your thoughts, O Wise One?!

Joe Strauss: I agree with your assessment about this team's infield defense. It has been porous for much of the season, especially at third base and second base. Even Brendan Ryan has had fitful periods. These elements were introduced during spring training as potential speed bumps. They then became potholes. Now the issue is a sinkhole. Anyone who didn't envision depth as a serious issue with this club wasn't paying attention in March.


bill: Hi Joe,

Thanks for the chats. As always, they bring a bright spot to the week. Please explain the scoring on last night's game. I understand that Lopez butchered a couple of plays. Even so, how can a home run not be an earned run? Thanks,

Bill

Joe Strauss: Runs that occur after an unmade play that otherwise would have ended the inning are considered unearned. In Tuesday's instance, Flip booted a ball that would have secured one out. Garcia then induced a double play against the next hitter. At that point, the inning should have been over, according to scorer judgment. McGehee never would have come to bat in the inning. Hence, the resulting runs are classified as unearned.


Rick Welty: Yo Joe,

Should we be concerned about the innings that Jaimie Garcia is racking up? What do you think the difference is today with pitchers maxing out with throwing 225 innings and 35 years ago pitchers going in excess of 300 innings? Are "kinder, gentler" pitchers being developed today?

Joe Strauss: Certainly complete games are less prevalant today than 30-40 years ago. But the financial commitment to pitchers is exponentially greater. Hence, the practice of treating arms like fine china. The Cardinals are closely monitoring Garcia but deny any intention of shutting him down for an extended period in September.
Because the Cardinals likely enjoy only one more off day this season after Thursday, TLR and pitching coach Dave Duncan are weighing a de facto 5 1/2-man rotation, whereby Waino', Carpenter, Westbrook, Lohse, Garcia and Suppan could make starts in one turn and either Lohse, Suppan or Garcia deleted in the next turn. Make no mistake: Westbrook was a significant addition due to concerns over Garcia's durability and Lohse's return from May surgery. It's what TLR and Mo' meant when they insisted July 31 that the team couldn't win if it embraced the status quo.


Redfeather: Hi Joe;

Joe, being a Cardinal beat reporter you're up close to the team, in the club house, press box, etc, watching them up close every night. What is your view of this team in respect to its commaraderie? The veteran, core guys seem to be agitated more and more. We saw it with Carp on Saturday. Is this team losing confidence and focus on the field? How much is the Ludwick deal playing on their minds?

Thanks Joe...always enjoy your show.

Joe Strauss: There is something to the notion that winning begets chemistry. There have been some dust-ups this season but the manager hasn't engaged a player in a clubhouse wrestling match (Pineilla/Dibble) or physically yanked a player from the field (Herzog/Templeton). It's a less experienced team than typical. It's a quieter clubhouse by Mo's own admission. If there was a general thread of discontent within the clubhouse it would be a story by now. There have instead been anecdotal examples of impatience, not insurrection. The Ludwick trade represented a significant irritant to numerous players. Now that Westbrook is here, contributing and fitting in, the disapproval is less vocal. But are some waiting for offensive help? Absolutely.


dn3524: Hi Joe.....2 parter:

1) Can you think of any team that throughout the season showed poor baserunning, poor infield defense, and poor offensive situational hitting, and then went on to playoff success? In all seriousness, is there really a point to this season? Reality bites.

2) In the early years of the decade TLR (and the rest of us) struggled to understand what made a certain LH hitting OF from the South tick. Eventually he left in a trade, albeit one that has paid huge dividends for StL. Flash forward...again, TLR seems to have difficulty with a sensitive young LH hitting OF from the South. These guys are quiet, and the fire is within, not without. Now, JD may get hurt a lot, but the kid has had a nice career for many winning teams. I fear Colby will be dealt since Tony doesn't know what to do with a personality like his. Mo is smarter than that, eh? To deal a cost controlled VERY young player like that? Right?

dave

Joe Strauss: Can I think of a team that played like this one? Yes, 2006.
As for the comparisions between JD and Colby, it's true that TLR had frustrations with both. Drew was involved in arguably a deal that transformed the franchise for the next several years, perhaps more, as it hinged on Atlanta Braves pitching prospect Adam Wainwright being included in the package. My information is that Colby was especially uncomfortable playing under TLR earlier this season. Indeed, that may have even been communicated to the front office. However, Rasmus also enjoyed a highly productive first half. Many players have chafed at times under TLR, Rolen and Jim Edmonds among them. Yes, Ryan Ludwick found it difficult to comprehend TLR's daily lineup machinations. Those players who endure trust the manager's judgment and style. Brendan Ryan admitted during spring training that can be a very difficult thing for a young player left at the bottom of TLR's caste system. But it's reality.


Ben Halter: Hey Joe,

Lots of talk of 3rd baseman, of course, and my question is no different. I hear very little mention of Seattle attempting to dump the failed Chone Figgins signing. I realize he is having a horrible year both offensively and defensively, but who available at this time of year is having a good one? He has been fairly consistent in the past, is not too old yet, plays a much better third than second, defensively, and could be installed at the leadoff spot (if he gets that on-base percentage up). Any thoughts? Is Seattle unwilling to eat enough of that big contract to interest the Cards?

Thanks,
Ben

Joe Strauss: The fan fetish regarding Figgins is not shared by many within the Cardinals organization. Check the contract. Check the stats. 'Nuf said.


Michael: Master of the wave,

If the Card fail to make the playoff, what do you feel will be considered the biggest reason? I think you could make the case that a team with a stellar pitch-to-contact staff with a well below average defense is fatally flawed, but it's hard to overlook their inability to beat the truly bad teams in their division. Playing so many games against the Cubs, Brewers, Astros and Pirates should be an advantage...

Joe Strauss: You just nailed it: The inability to dominate mediocre (or worse) teams withih the game's least impressive division.


KidTwist: What's your take on the draft? The team calls it a "three-run homer." I think they did well to sign their top guys, but I do have a problem. The Cardinals lack good position player prospects and the top guys they signed are Zack Cox and pitchers. You can never have too much pitching, but shouldn't they have grabbed another bat early? Signing Wilson would've more than made up for that. And did they really not offer him anything? Surely, in a situation like that, you throw out some obscene number and see what he says and if he says "no" at least you tried.

Joe Strauss: The ChatMeister have often been critical of the Cardinals drafts and player development under Luhnow. Perhaps some of that critique has been spurred by third-party publications distorting the system's depth (2009) and its inadequacies (2010). My sense is that the Cardinals may realize as much return on this year's draft than the much-discussed 2005 draft. Cox may eventually wind up at second base. The Cardinals aggressively pursued high-ceiling pitching, which is the game's universal currency. The Wilson pick was a flier. To criticize the Cardinals for not signing him is a little severe since no other club thought it worth more than a 12th-round pick whose talent screamed first round. I'm willing to allow Luhnow his three-run homer. But replay is also available.


IlliniAmy: Joe,

I can only guess that since no official statement has been made, you won't be able to comment on this, but I'm going to dare to ask anyway...why has Mike Shannon been missing so much time this season? Should those who would be so inclined pray about his health?

Is this a sign that he might be deeply contemplating retirement or semi-retirement (home series only and/or limited road trips like Ron Santo)?

Has he been attending the Blago trial?

On a completely different topic, last night is a prime example of why I believe ERA is a more accurate reflection of a pitcher's performance than W/L when voting on the Cy Young. If it were possible to assign the loss to a fielder, Felipe Lopez certainly deserved it last night. I'm not advocating giving the Cy Young on one statistic only, as I think lots of pitching statistics need to be evaluated, but I just felt a need to throw that out there on behalf of those of us who thought Carpenter and Lincecum had a narrow lead over Wainwright in 2009 (not so in 2010).

Thanks, Joe!

Joe Strauss: No need to overdramatize. Mike has gone "on assignment" a number of times this season. The man is in his 49th season with the Cardinals and his 39th in the broadcast booth. The club has increased Rick Horton's radio exposure while also giving time to Mike Claiborne. Shannon still seems to embrace his role. I can't speak to his future plans but this is the final year of his current contract. Everything I've heard says Shannon is the Voice of the Cardinals for as long as he desires.

As Waino' is learning today, run support is also a central element. I'm still convinced Wainwright deserved last year's Cy Young Award. Nothing that has happened since would cause me to change my mind.


Good Old JR: Do you think that the Cardinals constantly discounting tickets will come back to bite them? I've received an email offering discounted tickets for every series not involving the Cubs so far this year. It makes me feel like a sucker as a season ticket holder paying full price, especially when I have to buy weekday games against the Pirates.

Joe Strauss: Interesting point. I have no idea if your seats would be available on a walk-up basis, however. The club has made clear it will continue to be creative during tough economic times.


Dave: I have a question about the waiver system and Lohse's contract. If the Cardinals were to put Kyle Lohse on waivers and he was claimed by another team, the Cardinals could technically dump his contract and just give the team Lohse. Because of the no trade clause in Kyle's contract, would he have to accept the move or since it's not technically a trade does he have any say in the matter?

Thanks

Joe Strauss: The only way Lohse could be moved is either by consenting to a trade or by being released. If the Cardinals released him, they would be liable for his entire contract minus the major-league minimum. There is no technicality that allows the Cardinals to deal Lohse without his consent.


trav40: Joe why can't we win against losing teams? Seems to me that it is either a lack of effort or looking past the lesser opponent either scenario is a fatal mistake. Do you think we will sign a third baseman?
Travis

Joe Strauss: Entering today, the Cardinals were hitting .232 against the Brewers, .273 against the Cubs, .254 against Houston and .311 against Pittsburgh. They had averaged 5 runs per game against MIL, 6 against the Pirates, less than 4 versus Houston and 4.4 against the Cubs. I wouldn't cite lacking effort. This is a lesser defensive team and an inconsistent offensive one. Last year's 91-win bunch produced the Python Offense that would gorge for a day or two then slumber for almost a week. The Cardinals just emerged from a run of 10 consecutive games in which they scored four runs or more. Since they have scored 2, 7 and 2 runs. Through six innings today Randy Wolf is feeding them a two-hit shutout. This ain't new.


Terrapin03: El Diablo,
Regarding Zach Cox's minor league assignment it was explained that the team could save an option year by sending him to their Gulf Coast League affiliate. Do you think the front office is getting a little too "cute" with this move? If Cox really is the most advanced hitter out of this draft and the fast mover everyone says he is, shouldn't the team be more concerned about seeing how he performs against tougher competition in a league that doesn't finish it's season in a couple weeks?

Joe Strauss: The Cardinals plan to send Cox to the Arizona Fall League. It would be irresponsible of the organization to burn an option in order to watch him for three weeks.


Tackleberry: JSL (I vommited 4 times while writing this....),

Any feedback from the clubhouse regarding the substance on Jay's left shoulder that caused his bat to stick there multiple times last night?

Also, does the Cards organization (ownership, FO, team) get a a bulk rate discount on postage when they collectively mail games/series in?

Joe Strauss: Wow, if you continue to encroach on the ChatMeister's turf you may find yourself cut off, sir.


Richfromiowa: Hey Joe, I have a simple question. Where are the 3rd base prospects in the Cardinal minor league system? It appears that the cubboard must be bare there. Sure is getting old trying to watch middle infielders play the position.

Joe Strauss: Matt Carpenter is an interesting talent at AA Springfield. I've caught his act a couple times this summer. He appears to be a plus glove with a strong arm. He moves well. The pre-season "Third-party publication" prospect rankings whiffed on him, but what's new? Former top position prospect Daryl Jones is in his third year at Springfield, not exactly an endorsement.


Mike Boresi: Why does it appear the club won't promote Gotay? I'm aware he's similar to Lopez/Miles in that he's a 2nd baseman by trade, and therefore not much of a defensive upgrade... but the guy has an OBP over .400 at AAA this year. Doesn't that at least make him worth a look given the dire outlook at 3B with Freese now gone for the season?

Joe Strauss: Apparently the major league staff is not sold on his production. Gotay's OBP is heavily reliant on plentiful walks. It would suggest an example of disconnect between the major- and minor-league sides that arguably Memphis' most productive player (not named Craig) has received no sniff as the parent club scrambles for an outside alternative.


Mark G.: Chatmeister,

Is there any kind of timetable on Zach Cox to arrive in the majors? I know he was one of the best college hitters in the draft, and he plays at a position (3rd base) where the future is uncertain for Cardinals. I was wondering if he'll be on a Brett Wallace-type path, where he could reach the majors in 1-2 years.

Joe Strauss: That may be a little quick. Cox was selected as a college sophomore, Wallace as a junior. Much may depend on whether Cox requires a position switch. He is a line-drive bat who projects less power than Wallace. However, he is likely more athletic. It's reasonable to expect that Cox opens next season at Palm Beach, which may put him in line to finish at Springfield. From there, you could project an arrival time sometime in 2013. The guy's been signed for less than 48 hours. This is only a projection. He'll be closely followed in Arizona this Fall.


Mark G.: Chatmeister,

It seems like the Cardinals had a solid draft. I know you don't put much stock in farm system rankings by third party publications, but I'm wondering how much this draft improved the standing of our farm system. If we were a bottom tier system before the draft, are we now, say, middle of the pack, or still towards the bottom? I know we really emptied the cupboard last year.

Joe Strauss: It's not a reach to suggest that this draft may add three players to the system's Top 10 prospects list published next year in Baseball American and other "third-party publications."
The organization deserves applause for an aggressive draft.


DaveinChicago: Let the great tsunami hit the shores of Chicago and wash away the Cubs. The recent Cubs series got me thinking that Mo could pursue a middle infielder and leave Lopez in a platoon with maybe Allen Craig. The middle infield defense has been questionable at times this season and I'm not sure Brendan Ryan can hit above .250 to justify his glove. What do you think? Have you heard anything about Mo pursuing other infield positions?

Joe Strauss: There exist no palatable third-base options within the organization. Third base is a priority. Don't expect the Cardinals to get cute on this one.

Waino' is out of the game after seven innings and 106 pitches. The Cardinals trail, 3-0.


Terrapin03: El Diablo,
Kyle Lohse's first victory since May 17 occurs at the Pujols Family Foundation 5-man scramble. Can you confirm that his contributions were limited to the first 7 or 8 holes before sitting out the rest of the round?

Joe Strauss: That's a red card, sir. You're off the pitch.


Benzoinks: Yo, Joe. What do you know?

Given the fact that Freese was a rookie and very much an unknown coming into this season, don't you think it was extremely irresponsible for the Cardinals front office to enter the 2010 campaign with no major league depth at that position? It seems that they put all of their eggs into one unproven basket, and although it worked out for a while, we sure are biting the big one now.

Joe Strauss: The ChatMeister suggested as much in February and was hooted from the boards.


Ryan Castleman: Anyone talking about playing Pujols at third base until they find a real third baseman?

Joe Strauss: N-O.


jjglover: Three games lost by four total runs. Baseball is definitely a game of inches, but nothing has gone the Cardinals way in the last three games. We have errors, curve balls thrown by Jaime in the middle of the plate that get called as balls (the real reason McGehee got a pitch to hit that far) and even a comeback minus our star hitters on Sunday. Garcia was awesome by-the-way. What are the rumblings for help at third, and how can we get this ball club angry enough to pound on mediocre teams? What is the real reason for the lack of desire in this team? Be specific if you can.

Joe Strauss: Inability to score makes a team look flat. I don't interpret it as a lack of desire but a lack of performance. This team has been overly reliant on its starting pitching for most of this season. Fans and perhaps the front office became infatuated with Jay after his lightning July. Allen Craig is hitting less than .200. Lopez, Molina, Ryan and Schumaker are not power hitters. Without Ludwick and Rasmus in the lineup, teams are willing to take their chances attacking seven spots in the order while daring Pujols and Holliday to expand their zones. I don't know what anger is going to change.


Lee: Chatmeister,

The surf is a little rough these days, yes?

I know the Cardinals could still win the NL Central, but will they and should they? The Reds have proven to be a better and more deserving team.

Simply put: is the gigantic hole at 3B and the question marks at the bank of the rotation insurmountable by a team that has consistenly underachieved all season long?

Joe Strauss: Not at all. But it's increasingly clear that there will be no waltz to the NL Central title this season. Without a productive Rasmus, the Cardinals' offense is badly diminished. They do not have the capacity to overcome a poor outing by a starting pitcher or three unearned runs allowed by the defense. Those are the facts, jack. This team arguably has fewer ways to win now than six weeks ago.


Justin: Hello Joe, thanks in advance for potentially answering my question. As you and probably everyone reading this are aware, the Busch Stadium faithful are set to warmly welcome our friends the Cincinnati Yellows…I mean Reds…in a couple of weeks. When and if San Pedro Sally (Johnny Cueto) pitches in that series, do you think there is any chance Yadier Molina gets an off day and Jason LaRue catches that game for the Cards with Molina keeping his gear close-by…just in case Sally looks at LaRue sideways when Sally comes up to bat at some point in the game? I ask this keeping in mind that a move like this is typically against LaRussa’s nature, however, he did seem fairly irked over Sally’s hissy fit. Additionally, this will be after September callups so the Cards will likely have Matt Pagnozzi and/or Brian Anderson on the roster as backup and even a suspension of LaRue would harm the team very little since the rosters have been expanded.

Joe Strauss: To give a serious answer to a whimsical question, Jason LaRue's availability for the remainder of the season appears in serious question. He has shown little progress from the concussion suffered in last Tuesday's fight. The Cardinals, remember, first suggested they would not make another roster move if LaRue's return was thought to be quick. That is no longer the case and Bryan Anderson was promoted today.
The Brewers take a 3-0 lead to the ninth. The Cardinals have forced Randy Wolf to throw more than 13 pitches in only one inning so far. The humanity!!!


Mike: Any update on the possiblity of a new Stan Musial statue?

Joe Strauss: I believe ownership is open to the possibility but first desires input from The Man. For an organizaton that has campaigned fervently for Musial to receive the Medal of Freedom, it seems a lay-up to commission a statue befitting him. To be kind, the current monstrosity is weak. I'm sure the more ownership hears/reads the fans speak out on this, the more quickly it may move.


Fun Bobby: Good afternoon,

As always, thank you for your time. Since the Cards will be going in the direction of young, inexpensive talent, to offset Pujols/Holliday/Waino salaries, dont you think it is time for TLR to move on. I know, everyone says hes a hall of famer and that speaks for itself for him to stay- but then why shouldnt we sign Griffey and Gibson since they too are (or will be)HOF's. Eventually time catches up with you and I dont think he is a good fit for the future. The game has changed. Just like you said, a lot of younger guys are constantly looking over their shoulders and if they have an o-3, then they know they are benched the next day. How are players going to develop? Tony needs vets and will play them all the time (some of his teams here have been stacked and only 1 World Series to show?). I actually thought bringing Edmonds in would possibly been good for Rasmus (to help a possible cornerstone piece the way they talk about him) but Mo was afraid that TLR would play Jimmy 5 days and Colby 2- so its a shame it couldnt have.

Having two Cy Youngs and the best player in baseball, I could win as many games as he does, and I wouldnt make all the stupid switches he does to cost us games. Enough of "well hes won this many games". Heck in the NBA, you can win 60 games a season and get fired for being ineffective.

Sorry for the rant. Please feel free to tear into my statements. Ill take my beating now. Thank you

Joe Strauss: It's a legitimate view expressed by a faction within the fan base. The organization is clearly trending toward greater self-reliance. That said, the corresponding issues afflicting this team's depth can't be dismissed. If the Cardinals go "all in" on a youth movement surrounding a veteran core, they had better do a hard, critical analysis of what this system is producing. To date we're seeing lots of role players but not much impact. The inability of the system to offer another starting pitcher, a competent third-base alternative or a reliable back-up catcher are startling. I still challenge anyone to identify any "rental" trade in which a contending team sent away a former Silver Slugger who had averaged 105 RBI the previous two years. There are yellow flags for anyone willing to pay attention.

As currently constructed, this offense will continue to flounder until Rasmus develops into a consistent offensive force.


geomue: So what are the chances Inge makes it through waivers???

Joe Strauss: Not good, according to my information. The good news for the 65-win Cardinals is that no other NL contender would have a shot at first putting in a claim.


Kevin: Joe,

Any way you see the Cards adding Aramis Ramirez?
Would the Cards consider adding a stick even if it was not at 3rd? Hawpe?
Will Suppan start over Lohse the rest of this season?

Thanks As Always,
Kevin

Joe Strauss: The Cardinals are terrified of Ramirez' $14.6M player option for next season. As stated before, the Cardinals are considering a "5 1/2-man rotation" in September in which Suppan and Lohse could both be used.


Jon: With the Braves acquiring D. Lee, will they move Glaus to 3rd or at this point is he a liability there? Does this soften the market for 3rd basemen and make it more likely for the cardinals to acquire an Inge or someone else of some stature?

Joe Strauss: The Lee trade was a total vote of no-confidence in Glaus for the remainder of the season.


Strange Discharge: Joe,

Long time reader, first time surfer. Cowabunga!

In reference to Westbrook, for a groundball/sinker pitcher, it seems that he frequently pitches up in the strike zone. Is this typical for him, and is Dunc working with him to keep it down?

Joe Strauss: Westbrook's ground ball ratio would suggest he pitches up with purpose. Duncan advocates pitching up, but up enough that it takes a hitter out of his hitting zone. Westbrook has arrived as advertised, a guy who works fast and throws ground balls. As a bonus, he has struck out 19 in 19 innings with the Cardinals.


Sparkles: Oh Mighty Mr. Strauss,

This is my first time posting!!1! I'm really excited about it!

However, I'm not excited about the ness the is the Cardinals continual emotional breakdowns against *AWFUL* teams (see Braves, See Tiny Bears)

I feel that our beloved Birds could pull it together in the off season, but right now they're looking like they're lacking the spunk? emotional charge? team spirit? needed to even have the opportunity to get there.

What do you think? You think that maybe a new 3B could help? Do you think it's inner chemistry. I

Joe Strauss: Thanks for participating. Look, a lot of this rah, rah football talk makes good fodder for sports talk radio. The fact is, the Cardinals have real deficiencies that hold them back. They are exposed defensive at several positions and are increasingly reliant on a small number of players for power. The back end of their rotation is enough cause for concern that they dealt Ludwick for a No. 3 (or 4) starter. It's better to watch what a team does than to listen to what it says. Even so, the Cardinals have been very blunt about their need to upgrade third base. If you're a Cardinals fan, hit your knees every night and thank The Man upstairs that the Cardinals reside in the NL Central.


steve: Joe, how confident are the Cards that Freese will properly heal and return to form? How is this issue affecting their pursuit of a 3rd baseman? Would they consider any deal other than a rental? Thanks.

Joe Strauss: The Cardinals can not be certain of Freese's availability for next spring training or even next season. More will be known in the next couple months. However, his recent surgery was disquieting enough that the Cardinals are likely to seek depth at the position this winter. A repeat of this season's exposure is difficult to fathom.


bob: All we hear is execuses why the Cardinals can't make moves to better this team, yet other teams seem to with ease( i.e Braves getting D. Lee, Padres getting Tjeada and Ludwick and on and on again. After wathing this team give away games and always saying we are waiting on people to get experience or get healthy, the bottom line is that you perform or move on just like all of us do every day in our jobs. You don't perform then you are given the pink slip. Its time for managment to step up and pay the money or give up on the season and cut loose questionable talent. Cincy is serious about winninng and their GM will love nothing better to laugh in the Cardinals face.

Joe Strauss: You're on the record.


Dave M: Joe: We have no 3rd baseman, no 2nd baseman of any relavance, a shortstop that can catch but can't hit his weight(typical of most NL teams for some reason) and an up and dowwn pitching staff. Does the manager and GM get passing grades for this debocle or should one or both be looking for work next year?
Personally I like door number two. What say you?
Thanks, Dave

Joe Strauss: So much for St. Louis' fan base being described as super tolerant. The club has lost four of five (Brewers, 3-2: Final) but is 12 over .500 with 44 games remaining. It needs a 26-18 finish to win 92 games, 25-19 to match last year's win total and 24-20 to reach 90 wins, which The Tsunami has projected will win the division. Mo' just agreed to a three-year extension. TLR has been told by ownership he's Cardinals manager as long as he desires.
There's an undercurrent within this organization that the club is more flawed than what is admitted publicly. There are several possible explanations for that.
This team requires adjustments after the season. More on that later.


tom in iowa: Has Inge passed through waivers? What sort of deal would Mo have to make to land him? Is the holdup that other teams know they have him over a barrel? Even if Inge doesn't hit for average, his glove and occasional pop would be a huge upgrade.

Joe Strauss: My information is that Inge has yet to clear waivers.


wwhitworth: Due to the uncertainity of the rotation for next season do you think the Cards will make a real effort to bring back Jake Westbrook? I realize that would mean a large amount of payroll would be invested in the pitching staff.....................This season has shown that a good starting staff can keep you afloat when the offense is incomsistent.Also do you think Lopez will return?

Joe Strauss: Westbrook fits the Cardinals' pitching mold. The Cardinals may be reluctant to go beyond two guaranteed seasons for a pitcher of his age and medical history but I anticipate a desire to at least discuss the possibility of an extension. Westbrook has bought into Duncan's philosophy and has blended well into the clubhouse pitching culture. The Cardinals committed $9 million to Brad Penny this season. I have no idea what AAV Westbrook will seek in his next deal but there could be a fit. The Cardinals must decide whether they want to bring Kyle McClellan to a third straight spring training as a starting candidate. For now, Carpenter-Wainwright-Lohse-Garcia appear locked in. And, yes, negotiations with Pujols may factor.
Lopez was attractive to the Cardinals in February became he commanded only a $1 million guarantee. He is viewed as a bench player here. He may seek greater opportunity elsewhere.


Catman: Tsunami Master,

Garcia's arm is wearing down. That is no fault of his, but it is reality. He hasn't pitched this many innings in his entire career and he's barely 2 years from major reconstructive surgery. I know that Dave and Tony are trying to give him some extra rest, but he certainly can't be expected to be of value come playoff time...can he? That is..... if this team is able to make it in with shoddy defense at 3B and 2 1/2 quality starters and a questionable closer. What say ye, O Wise One..... can this team win the NL Central right now? They certainly can't be expected to win the Wild Card!

Joe Strauss: I have a very difficult time seeing the wild card coming from the Central, especially if the Braves and Phillies continue to win. The Braves entered today 4 games ahead of the Cardinals; the Phillies were 2 games up. The Cardinals have yet to prove that a softer division schedule offers them a significant edge. More and more it appears the Cardinals' upcoming stretch of 17 road games within a stretch of 20 will be pivotal.
Garcia pitched well Tuesday and lost through little fault of his own. He has been less efficient since the All-Star break but still ranks sixth in the league in ERA, just ahead of A-S starter Ubaldo Jimenez. Garcia is a six-inning pitcher at this stage of the season. If he offers six quality innings, that's enough.


iirishluck: I am a fan of TLR's reign here, but I am starting to wonder if this is about it for him here.

Do you get the feeling that TLR's message is getting stale in the locker room, and if so, is this TLR's last year managing here?

Joe Strauss: It's a question I have sought to ask but he isn't ready to answer. Approached about his status last week, TLR said the timing was inappropriate. The organization has allowed him to answer the questino about his return. So, in effect, no one else's opinion really matters.


smagsmoker: Hey Joe,
The loss of Ludwick for Westbrook, while strengthening our rotation, cripples our lineup. I know they needed the dollars for Ludwick to extend Pujols, however, we now have a lineup with two power hitters and six singles hitters with Rasmus out. None of the 3b options seem to really appear to be an upgrade by the waiver deadline. Our offense while hot for a few games will fall back to the mean and I can't see how they can compete with the Reds and the other playoff contenders and their upgrades. Thoughts?

Joe Strauss: Consider yourself validated. The Cardinals invested heavily in Holliday to serve as protection for Pujols. Trading Ludwick appears to leave the club little better offensively than before Holliday's acquisition. Rasmus is a huge player within this equation. Right now, he's a non-factor. Consider yourself validated.


vsiderio: Joe,
Two questions for what should be quite a tsunami:
1. Despite their public defense of the the team's defensive ability, what is the level of concern in the FO and dugout about the missed double plays and lack of execution that has been a season long cause of losses?
2. Have you heard the name Andy LaRoche mentioned?

Joe Strauss: The defense is a huge concern.
A front office type shot down LaRoche as an option two weeks ago. However, recent developments could cause the club to revisit that stance.


TCC: This may be blasphemous but can this team be better without Albert, I only ask because I feel like if he really wanted to be a Cardinal in 2012 he would have already signed this off season? I do realize that #5 is a business man and he has no obligation to anyone but himself and his family but as time moves forward I feel like we have less and less chance Pujols will retire a redbird.

Thanks for your time, TCC

Joe Strauss: I'm posting your comment because a number of others have expressed a similar sentiment. The Cardinals face a difficult philosophical decision. This team faces numerous decisions within the infield and its bench. The club prefers to retain Pujols but not at any price.


Andy: Any chance that Daniel Descalso is promoted? He seems like a solid player...

Joe Strauss: His promotion would be largely determined by potential playing time. TLR is not a big fan of promoting players as a reward for a strong minor-league season. Descalso should be considered one of the team's top five position prospects. The final answer may be dictated by whether the front office believes him to be a viable option for 2011.


Max Schmidt: Hey Joe,
With the signing of Zack Cox and the fact the Cardinals gave him a major league contract, you would think he would be "fast tracked" to the big leagues. What happens to David Freese then?
Thanks, Max

Joe Strauss: Cox is 2-3 years away, at least. If Freese is healthy, the two won't intersect soon.


Max Schmidt: Hey Joe,
Do the Cardinals have any interest in Edwin Encarnacion from Toronto, should he become available? He seems to offer the best combo of talent and long term help of all the names mentioned that could become available through waivers.
Thanks, Max

Joe Strauss: Encarnacion is available. There are questions regarding his defense and value as a teammate. At some point the Cardinals may look past those concerns.


Mark G.: Chatmeister,

As much as I'd like to see Waino win the Cy Young, it already seems like he's being hosed by the national media. On a Rob Neyer chat, someone rattled off the list of categories in which Wainwright is leading the league, and Neyer countered that Roy Halladay has the edge in park effects and K/BB. Park effects, really? I know that it's fashionable to say a Cy Young shouldn't be decided on a stat like wins, but park effects? Give me a break. Like Bernie said, there's a good chance Waino will be the best pitcher in the league for 2 years running, and have no Cy Youngs to show for it.

Speaking of awards where the Cardinals will get jobbed, any chance Ryan wins a Gold Glove this year?

Joe Strauss: I don't know if Neyer votes on the Cy Young or not. If someone wants to prove they're the smartest kid in the room, they can find any of dozens of metrics to make their case. Wainwright has been the league's best pitcher this season, start to finish. To mark a guy down because of where he pitches or his K/BB rate is being intentionall obtuse to prove a point. A guy wins 20 games with an ERA around 2.00. Size me for a dunce cap, but I don't see the debate.
I'm not sure Ryan will receive serious consideration given his offensive struggles (don't underestimate), his midseason fielding funk and his service time. Managers and coaches vote on Gold Gloves, so all bets are off.


Jim Hency: Afternoon Joe, When a team puts a player on waivers, in what order do the teams get to choose for the rights to that player?

Joe Strauss: A player on waivers must clear his own league first. The team with the worst record has first option, second-worst is second, and so on...
The process repeats in the opposing league. If an American League player is placed on waivers, the Cardinals currently would be 24th in line.

Joe Strauss: That's a wrap for this week. We went waaaaay long due to the intensity and volume of the questions. I anticipate a larger Tsunami should the team's fortunes not improve or a third baseman be found by this time next week. The Cardinals remain inscrutable after 118 games. In three days they will have less than one-quarter of the season remaining. I just saw the NL's third-worst pitching staff limit them to four runs in two games. The Cardinals had one hit with runners in scoring position in two days.

As an aside, a correspondent for a "third-party publication" ranked Matt Carpenter as the system's No. 2 third baseman last spring but did not list him among the Cardinals' top 30 prospects. (Carpenter hit .219 in the Florida State League after blasting his way through Batavia and Quad Cities. He was the highest-advancing member of the '09 draft class.)So there. That may be damning with faint praise but now you know.

If the Cardinals didn't believe they would make it to the postseason without bolstering their rotation last month, they surely recognize the need for offensive help now. Pujols and Holliday appear stranded on an island. Pujols may get pitches to hit early in games or in blowouts but teams are not going to challenge him in game-changing situations.

The Cardinals have now lost four straight home games for the first time this season. They retreated to two games over .500 since May 3, a span of 3 1/2 months. Like it or not, the Cardinals appear to be playing the role of chaser for at least the next week.

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