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Here's a transcript of the questions and answers from Wednesday's live chat with Post-Dispatch baseball writer Joe Strauss:


Joe Strauss: Because you care, I'm here to inform the ChatHeads that we are coming to you Live!!! today from the sunny climes of south Florida, where the temp hovers around 70, the athletes have begun arriving at Roger Dean Stadium and only three more punches are required on the ChatMeister's Pyro's card before earning a free wrap. And, oh, the Cardinals have yet to sign Albert Pujols to a contract extension. Adam Wainwright, Jason Motte, Mitchell Boggs and Colby Rasmus were among today's arrivals. Rick Ankiel showed up a day after becoming a father. Reinforcements have arrived as Junior Goold has taken up residency in Casa Lee. And the Commish, Rick Hummel, is due in this weekend. The Cardinals' transport van arrived this morning. Closer Ryan Franklin is publicly begging for Twitter followers. OK, now that you're caught up let's engage in some full-contact chat.

msd: Thanks for taking my question Chatmeister:

I am concerned if we do not explore Michael Young angle seriously. Getting a 20 HR .290 guy who has a positive history from a team desparate to shed him (so much so they may eat salary) seems like the classic "buy low" opportunity we should be looking into. Especially when he could potentially man 3b or 2b (both areas of question marks and upgrade potential). Maybe Texas asks for too much and we say no, but we should at least make a concerted effort. If we do not, is this more an indication of DeWitt's lack of payroll flexibility or Mo's failure to balance the roster/payroll well enough to be in a place of taking advantage of this? Is this not a great "buy low" opportunity we should consider if we committed to fielding a winner? And if this falls into the "Pujols Contract" limitation, what does that say about ability to field a winner with his contract implications?

Joe Strauss: You suggest a "buy low" approach for a player owed $48 million over the next three years? I'm fascinated with the M. Young movement that has been in place here for several years. Are the Rangers so inept that they take Young off shortstop, where E. Andrus now plays. They acquire A. Beltre for $80 million to take third base from Young. They then project Young, 34, as their designated hitter. Is there a red flag in there somewhere? Rangers GM Jon Daniels is no buffoon. He sees a player in decline. Rather than being handcuffed by an outsized contract, Daniels has continued to fortify his team. True, the Rangers are likely to take on some of Young's salary. But are you willing to gamble big money (and players) based on a PlayStation perception? If you think Young is still an All-Star player, you disagree with a heavy percentage of the industry. It appears very uncertain whether Young will be dealt at this time. As needs arise among contenders, he may become more marketable. But as John Mozeliak suggested Tuesday, the timing only further complicates such a move.

Caleb: Where is Shelby Miller likely to start the season? High-A?

And what about Tyrell Jenkins?

Joe Strauss: Miller is highly likely to open the season at High A Palm Beach (and finish at Double-A Springfield). Jenkins may open the season in extended spring then advance to either short-season Batavia or Quad Cities.

SCOTT B.: Seen Bill DeWitt?

Joe Strauss: About an hour ago.

Vick's dog handler: =I read an article that stated Freese has not yet begun to run?? How worried should Cardinal Nation be?? Is he going to be ready March 31st??

Joe Strauss: Let me clarify. An early version of Tuesday's Michael Young story incorrectly stated that Freese has yet to enter a running program. Freese has been cleared to engage in baseball-related activities. Part of that step involves him running. He has been making progress in that regard for several weeks. That said, the club intends to be very conservative with Freese this spring. He has required surgery on both ankles in the last six month. The ankles are described as arthritic. It is highly unlikely that even if healthy Freese will be allowed to start lengthy, uninterrupted stretches of games. Freese has a long history of foot/ankle problems. His recovery from said problems has typically been lengthy. A proactive approach is now be the preference. All that said, the club firmly believes that, barring a setback, Freese will be available to open the season.

ric: Ref; Rick Ankiel showed up a day after becoming a father.

Did the Cards sign him to a minor league deal? Did I miss that?

Joe Strauss: Ankiel lives in Jupiter. The Cardinals have given him access to their facilities until he reports to the Washington Nationals' camp in Viera.

a. wells: Question about Edmonds. What are the chances of Jim having a spot on the Cardinals bench out of Spring Training? With recent injuries and the fact that we have decently healthy outfielders as it is, will he have a good chance of knocking one of the younger bench players to Memphis?

Joe Strauss: Edmonds still must pass a team physical. Should Jimbo make the team, his presence would appear to jeopardize either Jon Jay or Allen Craig.

Not Joe Strauss: Joe, hope you're enjoying the weather and the sights and sounds from Spring Training. It appears the Cardinals don't have an interest in Michael Young. I would think he is a compelling option should the Rangers eat $20mm and we can unload Skip. Thanks for taking my question.

Joe Strauss: I'm not sure of the term "compelling."

imboray: Make a prediction for me, will Franklin be the closer at the end of the year?

Joe Strauss: Barring injury, yes.

Mike: Joe--Interesting article regarding Albert and his wife having dinner in Decatur. Question..what will be the procedure for copntract negotiations as February 16 approaches: matathon sit down? Dewitt involvement? Albert involvement? Finally, how do you think these negotiations will compare to those with Matt H?

Joe Strauss: You don't believe ownership already is involved in a potentially record-setting contract? C'mon. Deadlines, by definition, force action. I believe that will be true in this instance as well. Negotiations with Scott Boras regarding Holliday took on a rather sharp edge at times, enough so that the team chairman was prepared to walk away rather than guarantee a seventh season. ('Mo' convinced Bill DeWitt, Jr. to accede to a 7th year.)

Mo' remains the point man on talks, but nothing gets finalized without BDJ's consent. My information is that these talks remain professional and ongoing. As long as both those apply, there remains a chance for something to get done. But as of today I have no information that leads me to change my opinion that Pujols is headed to free agency.

Brad: It seems like the media blackout has hurt Albert's image to some. Personally, I believe this the right way for negotiations to happen. Has this helped the Cardinals' FO from the way it seems some fans are displaying their frustration with Albert? I am almost getting the sense that more and more fans are going to be OK with Albert as the negotiations have pressed on.

Joe Strauss: Based on fan reaction, I doubt either side emerges as the white hat should talks fail to produce an extension.

Bryan: For the love of God, get #5 signed. Dont give me this 'its complicated and there are things the average fan doesnt understand' line. They should have signed him before last season and they waited hoping the market deflated. Bad decision. Now pay up. Yes you are going to have to overpay for the end years when production is down. That is the way it works, you got a HUGE discount up until now. So I guess, my question is what is taking the club so long, is AP really being ridiculous with his demands?

Joe Strauss: I believe Mo' was sincere last May when he asserted that the club would pay for future, not past production. It is very difficult to envision any club committed to analytics believing that a 37-year-old Pujols will be as productive as the 27-year-old version. I have heard no desire by the club to apologize for the cost-effective deal Pujols signed in February 2004.

Dave: Nothing fancy; how do you see the Central standings stacking up at the conclusion of the 2011 regular season?

Joe Strauss: I'll restate:
Cardinals and Cubs finish 1-2, in either order.
Reds and Brewers finish 3-4, in either order.
Astros fifth.
Pirates sixth.
It's possible four teams finish with winning records but the division winner fails to reach 90 victories. There, you've got your ammunition if the Astros lead the division after 10 games and the Cardinals break slow from the gate.

Brad S: With major questions/concerns at 2B,SS, and 3B for the Cards this season including everthing from health to defensive and offensive ability, why is the team so quick to dismiss any interest in Young, given that he can play all three spots, hit for average and offer some pop and if this whole Pujols thing goes south, the offense will certainly need to be upgraded moving forward...Young would seem like a very sensible move and an upgrade at all three spots if a deal could be worked out. Further, if they don't pay Pujols then money wont be a factor.

Joe Strauss: Your last sentence goes to the core. You're assuming "they don't pay Pujols the money." That's impossible to know until after next Nov/Dec.

Dick Toler: Joe: How much affect do you think the enhanced pitching within the Central Div will have on our team other than AP & MH.? If we are expecting to improve our hitting over 2010, I just don't see that happening with the support players we have today.

Joe Strauss: Depth may be an issue. But depth typically gets exposed if there are deletions to the starting lineup. As stated here numerous times, D. Freese and L. Berkman are huge variables. If either goes down, the lineup degrades noticeably. It's more likely than not that the Cardinals will maintain their rotation beyond this May, unlike a year ago when Penny and Lohse went down on consecutive days. I'll still go with the Cardinals top five starters and everyday lineup over their competition. However, injuries could well dictate the outcome of a closely-bunched division.

Justin: I know your getting swamped with questions about micheal young....but do you think there is ANY chance at all that the Cardinals could trade for him? If so, what do you think it would take?
Thanks Joe

Joe Strauss: 'Mo' on Tuesday emphasized current timing is not good. Should circumstances change during the season -- with Young still in Texas -- perhaps the matter could be revisited. But Young's contract and the club's uncertain salary projections make it a tough fit at present. The Cardinals continue to view David Freese as their third baseman. The club will have to make a decision about second base when Schumaker's contract expires at the end of this season. Schu', however, doesn't reach free agency until after the '12 season.

badbeat3333: With one week to go in negotiations I am starting to freak out! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... Mass hysteria!!

Any reason to get down off the ledge??

Joe Strauss: I'm not sure why you would get on it.
I've got to believe there are more significant matters in your life than this. Pujols will be in a Cardinals uniform this season. Even if no deal is done in the next week, the club will engage him in talks after the season. Does it increase the odds of him leaving? Sure, it does. Albert will get paid. If he's not on a ledge, I certainly wouldn't be.

Josh: What is your % that Pujols re-signs with the Cards by Feb. 16? Thanks.

Joe Strauss: Without knowledge of the Cardinals' offer, any guess would be irresponsible.

trb: What are your feelings on the contract situation with Pujols. Do you think this could effect the team the entire season, if a deal is not done. To think that the media is going to let it rest if a deal is not done seems unrealistic..I don't see it not becoming a distraction.

Joe Strauss: Many share your opinion.

todd: Tim Brown, Buster Olney, Ken Rosenthal and others just seem to keep repeating the same story over and over and over again about the state of contract negotiations w/ AP. If there is a supposed to be a media blackout how are these guys getting their info? How is the P-D getting their info? thanks.

Joe Strauss: Let's see: A person(s) with an understanding of a situation offers information on the condition that his or her name(s) not be used. His information helps address significant fan interest in a delicate matter that both parties have no interest in sharing. The proper response must be to out the person(s) offering insight to the situation in order to damage them personally and professionally. I've got it.

nick n: If both Talbet and Valdes pitch solidly in camp this spring, is there a decent chance the team would conisder opening the season with 3 lefties out of the bullpen?

Joe Strauss: Only if the club carried 13 pitchers. Unlikely.

P: Assuming both are healthy this spring, handicap the race for Opening Day starter... Is it still Carpenter or does Wainwright finally get the nod?

Joe Strauss: No need to guess. The answer should be apparently fairly soon.

huffaker: During his presser at Winter Warm up 2010 Pujols indicated he was a amenable to a "hometown discount". That is he is on records saying that we would be willing to take a hometown discount. What happened between then and now? Was that just a slip of the tongue or do you think the club's actions since then has hardened his stance?

Joe Strauss: A discount from what? And when? He also noted that he was unafraid of reaching free agency. The CandyLand crowd seized on his mention of a "discount" as proof that an extension was imminent while totally ignoring the comment's lack of context. Safe to say that any "discount" looks different now after the Howard, Crawford, Werth deals. There also was an expectation that the club would aggressively engage Pujols in talks last winter. That apparently did not occur. Now that Pujols retains massive leverage within nine months of reaching the market, you really think he's interested in cutting the team a break; i.e. taking a lesser AAV than Ryan Howard? As Albert succinctly put it before signing his deal in 2004, "This is business."

Scott Wood: Is The Negotiation all or nothing, or is there a possibility of an announcement of some agreed framework, with the details to be ironed out before (perhaps well before) Opening Day?

Joe Strauss: There will be no announcement before a deal is finalized, notarized and filed with MLB and the MLBPA.

Tonyhan: 3 years back I purchased an Ankiel jersey. I got one good season out of it before it became obsolete. I'm considering a Jaime Garcia powder blue, but I'm nervous that I'll spend money on a jersey only to have the player leave in a year or two. I'm curious as to how long we "own" Jaime, and it it's not long are the Cards looking at a long term deal to lock him up?

Joe Strauss: Garcia reaches arbitration after this season. He would reach free agency after the 2014 season. I would anticipate you getting more mileage out of your 54 than your 24.

Tackleberry: If you had to sum up the Cards inability to make the playoffs in 3 of the past 4 seasons, what would you say were the root causes/cause? How is 2011 going to be different?

Joe Strauss: Lack of organizational depth. The only year in which the team reached the playoffs (2009), it was able to parlay prospects for DeRosa and Holliday. In 2007, 2008 and 2010, the club did not make significant in-season additions. The Ludwick-for-Westbrook move subtracted from the offense to address pitching. The club dropped from 0.5 games in first place to 5.0 games back after the fact. The bench has not been nearly as deep the last four years as it was in '04-'05 and, to a lesser degree, in '06.

Mike:It seems NL Central GM's decided that "Good Pitching beats Good Hitting" and loaded up starting staffs.

The Birds seem to be the best 1 thru 5. While people fawn about the Brewers acquisitions, they have Narveson at 5. The Reds tandem of Bailey/Wood is high on potential but...could it be that the Cubs addition of Garza makes them #2?

Which other team do you think has the staff that can allow them to win some games no matter who they throw out on the field?

Joe Strauss: I'm higher than most others on the Cubs. Judging from some of today's comments, I may also be higher than most others on the Cardinals. Again, health is always a variable. But it is especially true within this year's NL Central.

Big Jim: Joe My Man, What would DeWitt be doing in Florida, when I would assume he would have more pressing business in St. Louis, signing Albert. Unless the contract is done, and they are just intentionaly driving us all nuts.

Joe Strauss: My man, they have phones down here, too.

Derrick: If Pujols does decide to become a free agent, who will be playing 1st in 2012? What 1st baseman will be available after the 2011 season?

Joe Strauss: No. 1 free agent: Prince Fielder. The Red Sox are expected to sign Adrian Gonzalez to an extension at some point during the season. If not, I'd place Gonzalez ahead of Fielder. More important, the Cardinals likely would, too.

Tonyhan: In your opinion will we start and finish the season with the same 25 guys?

Joe Strauss: It's my opinion no team will.

captain hero: Considering the fact that this may be Craig's last year to show what he can do, considering that Jay showed some ability last year, and considering that both are more than 10 years younger than Edmonds, and have much more upside than a guy who may very well retire before the season ends, if not before it begins, what was the point of signing Edmonds? Do you suspect a potential trade? Or maybe backup for uncertainty about Berkman? Or is this just "Tony being Tony"? I'll also accept "All of the Above".

Joe Strauss: Let's save the speculation until Edmonds shows that he is fit enough to play. By their own admission the Cardinals aren't sure. Signing Jimbo to a minor-league deal eliminates risk for all parties.

Charlie: I read in STL Today a few days ago that Albert and his agent want 10 years. If they don't come off that position, I think we should let him walk. That's too many years to tie up in any person--even Albert. My God, he'll be over 40 at that time. I would rather have two $15 mil a year players if we have to tie up that many years.

Joe Strauss: My information is that a 10-year framework was mentioned last year. It has not been reported as being part of the ongoing talks between the parties. In 2010 there was also the possibility of folding the final two years of Albert's previous deal into an extension. Obviously, that possibility no longer exists.

Max Schmidt: Im just reading some of the chat as you post it...and unless I put my glasses on backwards I thought I just read that you think the Cubs would finish higher than the Brewers in the Central this year...? Really? I live in Brewer country and understand that there is plenty of hype surrounding their off season right now but just to clarify...you are referring to the Chicago Cubs, right? The same Cubs who finished behind the Brewers last year and did far less to improve their team than Milwaukee did in the off season.

Joe Strauss: Sounds like you've got some clip-and-save material. As we all know, any team that finishes behind another the previous season has no expectation of passing that team the next year. The Brewers are this season's NL Central Flavor of the Month. We'll see if that month is May or October.

Fresh: Chatmeister.....what a great time to have your job, covering one of the most compelling stories of this early baseball season in AP deadline. On to my question.....Which will be demonstrated the most in your humble opinion by the media if Albert doesn't sign....Alberts' proposed greed to be the highest paid 1st baseman or the St. Louis Cardinals proposed cheapness not to sign this generations best 1b?

Joe Strauss: I would wager it will be presented in both forms by various outlets.

l ray: Joe, lets say BDJ is okay with 27 mil per year for however many years but AP & his agents want 29 or 30 mil per year. Do you really allow him to walk for 2 mil. Just raise the ticket price 75 cents more for the 3.2 mil fans and be done with it. Gives the Cards nearly 2.5 mil more to pay him. Or we can have "donation buckets" at the gates and have each one of fans drop in their donation to the "just get'em and keep him signed" campaign. Really, if it boils down to a couple mil difference per year then what's the fuss. Either way, the fans are going to pay for AP to stay. Is that a fair and balance way to state the obvious.
ljr

Joe Strauss: Length of contract is a huge issue.

BDAx2: JSL!!! I realize "ifs" and "buts" are like candy and nuts, but if Freese or Berkman to a lesser degree goes down EARLY in the season say prior to May 1 do you see the Cards going outside the organization for help if the standings warrant it?

Joe Strauss: Jay/Craig or a healthy Edmonds/Craig remains as a possible RF platoon. Punto/Craig or Punto/Greene could serve the same role at third base. I believe both would serve as short-term solutions. If such an injury occurred early (ifs and buts) it's likely the club would eventually seek outside help.

badbeat3333: Do you see Team Pujols moving the deadline up to 2/16 as an indication that they want to get this done?

Joe Strauss: The deadline has not been moved up.

Coldbird: Joe- How come Nick Stavinoha is hardly mentioned as a bench guy? He has been a very good pinch hitter. Where to put him defensibly must be the problem. Is he really that bad in the field compared to the likes of Jay and Craig? I like Jay, but he needs to get better jumps on the ball off the bat. Craig and Stavinoha seem to be equal on the definsive side of things, average at best. Craig can play third and Stavinoha can catch. So I guess the club is admitting that defensibly they are weak,. They just won't come out and say it.

Joe Strauss: Stavinoha is not currently on the 40-man roster. By definition it will be more difficult for him to make the club. He has no options remaining.

imboray: I know of his value in the bullpen, but assuming Motte & Boggs continue to progress, do you see McClellan getting any starts if the starting 5 have any injuries?

Joe Strauss: As last year showed, once McClellan opens the season in the bullpen, he's very likely to stay there. Walters, Lynn, Batista, Dickson and Snell are options. Only a situation that arose in spring might alter the equation.

Dan in FLA: Hi Joe: Welcome back to sunny FLA. Do you think the Colby Rasmus and TLR fued is 100% over? I'm still concerned about TLR thinking that using your dad as a hitting coach is not "major league."

Joe Strauss: A long season tends to reveal such issues. For now, all parties are playing nice.

hugeCardfan: Joe,

Seems to me that Albert's dramatic success back in 2004 to get such a huge committment (8 years) from the team, may have been his undoing for the mega-contract that he wants now. I doubt we would have hesitated to give the guy most anything he wanted were he 27. Do you foresee another team being willing to give him everything that Lozano is asking at 32?

Surely the Cards will want to incentivize the last five years. Albert's a smart guy. He may not want that, but intellectually it makes no sense for a team to make a different risk commitment. Is Lozano the right guy to lead Albert thru these negotiations?

Joe Strauss: How can you say what Albert may command before he reaches free agency? Therein lies much of the current dilemma. Even if the Cardinals were able to achieve some sort of "discount," it's impossible to know what figure should be discounted absent a competitive market. It is difficult to see Pujols accepting a "discount" compared to a Howard contract. A "discount" compared to another team's higher bid may be easier to accept while still offering PR value.
Is Lozano the right guy? I'm sure many more would question his fitness if he accepted a lesser deal before his client reaches the market. With his client less than a year from hitting the market, an agent typically isn't about "breaks."

Jay: Hey Joe,

Just curious about your NL Central projection. Do you see Cincy taking a step back this year, or do you think St. Louis and Chicago have upgraded this year? Thanks.

Joe Strauss: I'm skeptical that the Reds will again reach 90 wins within a more balanced division. They also enjoyed a disproportionate number of late wins in 2010. I think Walt Jocketty is galvanizing a team that may be very good for a number of years. But it's not unrealistic to see a half-step back this season.

kevn: You are a smug basta** and I wish that you would just go away, why even bother to do these chats if all of your responses are smart as*!!!

Joe Strauss: Once again, the editors can't contain themselves.

Still The Official Prospect: Has Josh Goldberg been assigned a locker?

Joe Strauss: You're moving in on my turf. Stop it.

Cardsfan_28: You have a finger on the pulse of Cardinal fans. I'm wondering what the reality will be in 2012 if we have no Pujols? Will attendance decline? Will we be under 'the curse of El Hombre' a la the Boston Red Sox and Babe Ruth? Personally, I love Pujols but I think I love winning baseball more. I only want the former if I can have the latter.

Joe Strauss: My sense is that St. Louis will always support a contending club with 3 million attendance. Question: Do the Cardinals remain contenders without Pujols? Another postseason miss minus Pujols could test fan loyalty moreso than at anytime since the aftermatch of the 2003 season (2.91M attendance).

MRR: What is the early word on Rasmus?
Am I wrong to think he should be much more comfortable this year and that the influence of Edmonds and Berkman may be just what he needs?
I'm hoping for a much better year from him.

Joe Strauss: The club shares your hope.

Eric: High expectations for Berkman, Rasmus, and Freese contributing offensively. If all three do, we have a contender. If only one performs, we have a pretender. What about two out of three? Also, is any one of these three more critical than the others?

Joe Strauss: All three are critical. The club can likely compensate for the 2-3 week absence of any. A month or more creates a major issue. I believe the team's complementary pieces better this season. However, that's different than turning over a position for 6-8 weeks. Craig's development could be huge given his presence at 3B and RF.

stephen c.: thanks for doing this each week...

i dont know the ins and outs of contract issues- ive just been a stl fan for 33 yrs. and im trying to make this work in my head so albert can still play for my favorite team.

is it even possible for pujols to sign something like a 10 yr. 300 million deal that pays out over the course of 12, 15, or even 20 yrs.?

thanks

Joe Strauss: Only if he wants the deal to be worth 50-75 cents on the dollar.

hugeCardfan: Joe:

Re: "Now that Pujols retains massive leverage within nine months of reaching the market, you really think he's interested in cutting the team a break; i.e. taking a lesser AAV than Ryan Howard?"

5 years and $28M AAV would probably get done in a heartbeat on the Cardinal side. I doubt the Cards are looking for a lesser AAV than Howard unless the duration is onerous. This has nothing to do with Howard's AAV.

Joe Strauss: Sounds like you're plugged in. Thanks.

doc44: Hi Joe... Wish I was in Jupiter myself... Lots of snow here...

Considering that Edmunds remains popular among Cardinal fans, and that the front office is perhaps somewhat less so (Ludwick trade, Ryan trade, failure so far to sign AP), could Edmunds signing and upcoming try-out be more PR than reality...?
Thanks...

Joe Strauss: You're not the first ChatHead to pose the question. But if Edmonds can't play, I really don't see the PR value.

curt: Joe,don't you think Albert would be taking a big risk in not signing an extension over a few million a year? If he is injured this year he could stand to lose 10 of millions dollars. He is getting older, and more prone to injury.

Joe Strauss: I hear you. However, Pujols has averaged 156 games played the last four years. He has averaged 155.8 games played over his 10-year career. I'm not discounting that advancing age can lead to chronic injury; however, Pujols' career consistency also stems from his availability.

MAustin: Joe, a question was asked as to who would be playing 1st in 2012 if Albert becomes a free agent. You responded by saying that the number 1 free agent would be Prince Fielder... Dont you think that if Albert Becomes a Free Agent HE will be the Number 1 guy? How long do you think the Cardinals would remain in the mix for Albert next offseason before being forced to look at a guy like Prince (who in my opinion, would be a distant Number 2)?

Joe Strauss: Point taken. I believe the ChatHead assumed Albert landing elsewhere.

Mark G.: Chatmeister,

The Cardinals have made some curious moves this winter, like the Lance Berkman signing. He's a guy who could be a decent bat this year, but doesn't provide a long term solution anywhere. Do you sense that the Cardinals are going "all in" this year, with the assumption that it's their last year with Pujols?

Joe Strauss: My sense is that the Cardinals have tried to restrict themselves to shorter-term deal until the Pujols situation resolves itself.

Mark A: Which was worse? Christina's Star Spangled Banner or The Black Eyed Peas Half-time show?

Joe Strauss: Worst of all was the Steelers' inability to cover.

Andy: For some reason the Pujols situation reminds me of Edgar Renteria, what are the chances Pujols comes out of this feeling disrespected? Obviously not the same caliber of player but same team.

Joe Strauss: A very good chance.

Tackleberry: JSL,

Do you think that Pujols's personal success has been so crucial to this team not being horrific in '07, '08, '10 that in some cases his play masked major issues that would have caused an uproar among fans had Pujols not be mezmerizing us?

Joe Strauss: Interesting question: As noted last week, one rival executive recently insisted that the Cardinals are a fourth-place team this year without AP.

card_in_nc: Edmonds, 40, signed for 1M. Manny signed for 2M(?) down from about 20M.
Berkman, who has some age on him, accepted 8M which about 50% than last year. Don't remember what Damon made, but I think he took a hit as well.

I guess the point is aging players who think they can still play sign for less. We can't really expect to pay Albert 25M - 30M at age 40, can we?

Joe Strauss: As I (and the organization) have reminded before: It's not my money.

Pujols is God: El Diablo,,,If Albert does not resign, do you see a situation similar to the Cavs (25 straight losses) happening to the Cards in 2012? Thanks RJ

Joe Strauss: I would doubt the Cardinals suffer a 25-game losing streak.

LawrenceKScardsfan: Dear great wavemaster,

I see lots of comments about how the Cardinals can simply(?) use the money saved by not signing Pujols to populate the team with two or three "near-equivalent" all-stars. However this does not appear likely given recent trends: the frustrating turns and twists of the Holliday signing (and the overpayment IMHO for him and Lohse), and the signing of castoffs and retreads (Theriot, Punto, Berkman). In fact, recent post season history suggests to me an unwillingness on the part of the front office to spend money to build a WS contender(you've argued, for example, that management is building a team to win the NL Central Division and not the World Series). Additionally, from my observations of recent off-season activity, a lot of the better players simply resign with their existing team - which again argues against the success of buying talent. If Albert isn't signed, isn't it reasonable to assume Cardinal management will simply continue to populate the team with castoffs and retreads (and dumpster dives) rather than getting into a bidding war for major players and do you believe this will be the case?

Thank you for answering in all your munificence!

Joe Strauss: I'm not going to speak for the organization. But I think it safe to assume that if Albert plays elsewhere in 2012, the blowback toward the organization (and, yes, the player) will be a study unseen in St. Louis since Brett Hull's exit as a free agency in 1999. One would think that circumstance would force the team to act very aggressively next winter.

CoOrS iS bEtTeR: How do the Cards think they're going to make progress and eventually extend Albert if they reportedly can't even present him with an offer? Thanks!

Joe Strauss: The Feb. 15 deadline will not pass without the Cardinals making an offer.

doulos63: Question: Any chance that Pujols doesn't want to play here any more, management knows it, and this whole secrecy thing is just a way for both to save face?

Joe Strauss: The pace of talks has nothing to do with antagonism toward St. Louis. There are numerous reasons for Pujols to wish to remain in the area.

Joe Strauss: That's going to be a wrap for this week's edition of Joe Strauss Live!!! Next week's chat coincides with an announcement by the club and presumably Albert's agent regarding the talks' fate. Safe to say it'll be somewhat crazy. Thanks for your attendance this week. As always, enjoyable. Catch you again after pitchers, catchers and Albert report. Aloha.

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