Rams chat: Fans still focused on draft, free agency

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Here's a transcript of the questions and answers from this week's live chat with Post-Dispatch football writer Jim Thomas:

nick49: Hey Jim:
1)As union members ourselves,we WILL get that agreement! No way are the owners or players going to give up that sort of money when people like us fight for nickels and healthcare costs.Dont you agree?
2)Do you like Braylon Edwards or Santonio Holmes for wr help?
3)And what are your thoughts on Donte Whitner of Buffalo for one of our safety starters?
4)And I believe if we get a safety and wr in free agency,itll help us get a dt/de,scatback and linebacker in the draft.Your thoughts?
5)And with Stan Kroenke so scarce,who makes the financial calls at Rams Park?

Bring on free agency!!!!

Jim Thomas: 1.) Well, you'd think they'd be smart enough to avoid a lockout and/or litigation.
2.) I like Holmes better.
3.) He's a possibility, but it's not like he's a star.
4.) You might throw corner into that draft list as well.
5.) It's still Kroenke.

Bald_81: Hi Jim,

Have the Rams shown any interest in DE Cameron Jordan? He would be a very good fallback option at #14 if Julio Jones isn't there. I know he played predominately in a 3-4 set while at California, but he played all along the line and can effectively anchor the run and rush the passer. He has the type of versatility and skills that would make Spags drool. Just wondering if you caught any interest on the part of the Rams while at the combine? Thanks

Jim Thomas: Not sure how much interest the Rams have, but I think he's definitely in that mix at 14. He's got that versatility to play inside and outside on the line that Spags likes.

gdarby: Hello Jim,

Good day to you!

I heard that Aldon Smith had interviews with 28 teams at the combine...were the Rams one of those teams? After Julio Jones, do you see Smith as being a real possibility? He reminds me of a very unpolished Justin Tuck. Seems to have enormous upside.

Jim Thomas: I don't know for sure if Smith talked to the Rams at the combine, but I'd be surprised if he didn't. And yes, he is on the Rams' radar at No. 14 overall.

LanRam: Jim, I haven't given up but it appears we're not getting JJ at 14. Please tell me there'll be a defensive lineman available that can play right away (that's what 1st rounders are for). Last 2 years of 2nd rounders have been awesome, is the talent deep enough for us to do it again? We need our 1st and 2nd round draftees to contribute significantly. How is Danario's health?

Jim Thomas: Between Aldon Smith, Adrian Clayborn and Cameron Jordan could all be there at 14. As for your second question, Billy Devaney thinks this draft is strong enough at the top that there could be a strong player avaiable in the third round. Obviously, it's a matter then of picking the right round. Damario Alexander told me last Friday that his knee feels 100 percent better right now than it did at the end of the season. The time off of the knee has helped a lot (although he is working out on his own).

Kevin: Hi Jim, First time on your chat but always look forward to reading it.
Question,I realize the Rams need every pick with all of the needs,but what is the chance of a trade up with Washington if J. Jones is still there? I understand Washington doesn't have a 3rd or 4th round pick. What would it take to move from 14 to 10? Thanks

Jim Thomas: I wonder if a fourth-rounder would do it. (Might take a third.)

Pat Reddy: I hear a lot of talk about the Rams "need" at wide receiver. It's as if no one remembers how good Mark Clayton looked when he arrived in St. Louis - and he barely knew the playbook! Don't get me wrong, I don't see Mark as a #1 WR, but he certainly goes to show that the majority of our young guys can't get separation - or are not as good as we hoped they would be. My question is this.....
Doesn't it seem that a WR corps of Donnie Avery, Mark Clayton, Danny Amendola, and Danario Alexander would suffice on this team and that finding a RB to spell SJ and beefing up our linebacker corps or O-line SHOULD be where the buzz is?

Jim Thomas: The assumption then is that Clayton, Avery and Alexander would all stay healthy. And given their injury history, can we really say that?

IL-side: Now that OJ is gone, any chance the Rams try to make a move for Asomugha and move one of our current CB to Safety? Do we even have a CB on our roster that could possibly make that tranisition? Am I just using wishful thinking here? Thanks for your time.

Jim Thomas: Could be wrong, but I don't think there's a guy like that on the roster (a corner who could be switched to safety).

HiltonHeadMatt: Joe:
Assuming a deal is reached this week, when would the NFL announce the national TV schedule? Do you expect the Rams to have a national game this year?

Jim Thomas: If memory serves, usually the league announces some of the national games, I think maybe it's the opening week national games, at the annual March owners meetings, March 21-23 this year. The rest of the schedule doesn't get announced until about the second week of April.

Riverview 33: Jim: Thanks for the chat. A couple of quick questions: (1) Do you anticipate the Rams will attempt to upgrade the guard position currently manned by Adam Goldberg either through the draft or free agency; (2) Is John Greco a viable option as a starting guard or is he a career backup; and (3) Has McDaniels and the rest of the offensive staff completed the new playbook so they can at least get it in the hands of Bradford and other offensive players before the inevitable lockout? Thanks.

Jim Thomas: 1.) Yes.
2.) I think so, but it's not like we've got a large sample size of him playing.
3.) The playbook remains a work in progress, but I think Bradford has enough info to get started on the offseason without McDaniels under a lockout scenario.

MARAMSFAN: Jim- Thanks for the time. Now I am all for Julio Jones- think he'll be BETTER than AJ Green at the end. However- it looks like he may be gone before the Rams= which brings me to my 3 questions...

1. Would the Rams consider trading up say with the Skins or even Dallas?
2. If the Rams re-sign Clayton wouldnt there be an overflow of WRS now with Clayton,Avery,Amendola,DX,and possibly Julio?
3. Any possible way the Rams take a shot (pun intended) at Plaxico?

Jim Thomas: 1.) Possible.
2.) Don't think so. The Rams probably will take six wideouts into the regular season.
3.) Haha. I would think they'd at least consider it. But when's he released? June? By then, barring a long lockout, free agency should basically be done, plus the draft, so the Rams might already have filled that need.

HomeRunHomer: Unless the Rams are really lucky, I think it is safe to assume that Green & Jones will be gone by the 14th pick. Who of the WRs that you think will be there in round 2 standout and are they any different/better from the guys we already have on the roster?
If both WR are indeed gone I would think its best for the Rams to trade down a few spots pick up extra picks and still get a valuable defensive player in round 1. What is the likely-hood that the Rams trade out of their spot?

Jim Thomas: Leonard Hankerson, Titus Young, Jonathan Baldwin, Torrey Smith are all possibilities for the Rams in Round 2. Maybe Vincent Brown of San Diego State. Now, some of these guys could go late first or early second (before the Rams), but some of them should be there. As for trading down a few spots, Billy Devaney is already on record saying he would be willing to trade down under the right set of circumstances.

ramfandan: Hi Jim,
From various sources I have been reading, it seems that Webster Groves HS and Iowa star Adrian Clayborn's stock may be on the decline a bit placing him past the midway point in Round 1. Conversely, I have heard reports that Wisconsin's DE J.J. Watt's stock has been on the upswing. Watt initially had been mentioned as best fitting a DE in the 3-4 scheme. Now I am reading and hearing that some feel he has the quickness and pass rush to play right end in the 4-3. Have your heard this and do you have any sources that suggest the Rams at 14 could have interest in J.J. Watts should he be available there ?
Thanks for your answer.

Jim Thomas: You know, I haven't heard that about Clayborn or Watt. And Watt is regarded as a prototype 3-4 end. Not sure about Rams interest in Watt.

rj: Jim:
Probably a popular question today - but will they get it done? Also, will the Rams bring back any of our own free agents? What is the latest on clayton's return?

Jim Thomas: The Rams and Clayton are close, and I think it gets done once there is a new CBA. During this extended negotiating period, teams can talk to agents of their own players, but no league transactions can be done. So Demoff and Clayton's agent can talk but they can't finalize the deal. Off the top of my head, I think the Rams would like to re-sign TE Fells and DT Gibson and there are a few others as well.

adam: If the labor situation sorts itself out before the draft do you see the rams being aggressive? Do you see the rams going after any 1st tier free agents? Or will they focus more on 2nd and 3rd tier

Jim Thomas: I think I'm as curious as the next guy to see what the approach will be under the new ownership. (Kroenke) I think he will do what is necessary to improve the team, but it's not like he's going to just throw money around.

mfach17: What happens to the Rams schedule if the season is locked out? Does the current schedule rollover to the next season or do they change the divisions we play like the previous season was played?

Jim Thomas: Wow, now that's a doomsday scenario. Don't know the answer to that one.

Eric: Jim,Thanks for the chat,

Two big questions assuming Jones is off the board, what are the chances the Rams would take Mike Pouncey ? To give the Rams some inside game. And if they
tried to move up in the Draft, What would it take to get to 8 or 9 ?

Jim Thomas: I think Pouncey's in play only if the Rams trade down _ and trade down about 10 spots. No. 14 is definitely too high for Pouncey. To get to eight or nine, it might take a third-rounder.

ramdavis11: How many draft picks do we have?
Will we get any comp picks?
Is there a prospect worth trading up for?
What is our current salary cap?

Jim Thomas: The Rams have seven picks: their original pick in Rounds 1 through 5 and Round 7, and Baltimore's 7th rounder from the Mark Clayton trade. (The Rams have no sixth round pick _ that went to Baltimore for Clayton.) The Rams don't have to give Chicago any compensation for the Kevin Payne in last spring's trade. It was a conditional pick and Payne was waived/injured so he didn't play enough to get the pick.
As for comp picks, it's doubtful.
As for trading up for prospects, in the first round Julio Jones might be a possibility. Or A.J. Green falls (but I don't see that happening). Otherwise I don't think so.
The salary cap obviously isn't set yet. But I think the Rams will be in pretty good shape when all is said and done. But as I sit here, I don't know how much money the Rams have committed to contracts in 2011.

Greg in Raleigh: 2 quick questions:

Assuming there is a lockout and rookies can't sign or have contact with the coaches, does that make a pick like Ingram more beneficial since there is less of a learning curve for rookie RB's?

Assuming the Rams address the Guard position in the draft, would you prefer they drafted someone who played guard in college or the best lineman available and move a tackle to guard? I have no idea how difficult the transition is.

Jim Thomas: On Ingram, perhaps. But we're talking short term. I don't think you make a draft pick, particularly a first round pick, based on the possibility that there may be a month or two of offseason workouts missed. You base it on the long-term projections that you have for a player.

Interesting question on the guard/tackle, because that is one switch that isn't all that uncommon _ college tackle to pro guard. But projecting players at different positions in the pros is always risky, so I guess I'd rather have a college guard.

Tackleberry: Last week you said that the fans will most likely be let down by the Rams' free agent/draft efforts regarding a wide receiver. Could you expand on that a bit? Did you mean that Clayton re-signing will be the highlight of the off-season (asssuming he does) or did you just mean that they aren't going to go out and acquire an arsenal of weapons? If Devany can't make a move for an "upgrade" than that will look pretty weak.

Jim Thomas: I don't recall saying this or writing this. Maybe you have me confused with another chat. But in general, fans that are expecting the Rams under Kroenke to just throw money at the Rams' problems through free agency will be disappointed. Sure, the Rams would like to add a starter or two in free agency, plus some depth help. But from what he's told me, Kroenke isn't going to be the next Dan Snyder in terms of free agency _ that is, a big spender. Devaney has said repeatedly that he'd like to build the Rams through the draft primarily. And I think that will be the overall philosophy.

berno615: Jim-some of the draft comments are starting to worry me .This team was a very weak 7-9.At pick no.14 we need a starter playing every or nearly every down i.e. wr,lb,cb not another de who may or may not pan out who plays situationally ,we have enough de now ,sometimes need has to be worth something and another de in the first round makes no sense especially one that may play 20% of the time at best and especially now that we already have another hole at safety to fill in fa or draft.

Jim Thomas: OK, let's look at the first round. There shouldn't be a CB, LB or WR at No. 14 overall worth taking. (That's assuming WRs Green and Jones are gone _ as they should be _ and corners Peterson and Amukamara are gone _ as they should be.) Once Von Miller goes, and he could be a top five pick, there won't be any LBs worth taking at 14. So where does that leave you? There are no safeties worth taking there, in fact, there may not be a safety taken in the first round. Even if you felt TE was a big need, there are no TEs worth taking there and may not be a TE taken in the first round. So that leaves us with QB _ don't need one _ OT (don't need one), RB (maybe Ingram) or defensive line (where there should be plenty of ends and a couple of tackles that could be in play at 14.) So why not take an end? James Hall just turned 34 in February. And the hallmark of Spags' defenses has been plenty of defensive linemen who could rush the passer. Why does this sound so far-fetched? It makes a lot of sense to me actually.

Michael: Hi Jim,

It seems an NFL work stoppage is looming. It seems the labor problems will hurt the Rams or any other team trying to rebuild more than the established teams. I think both sides have their points. Most of my friends would agree with college players not getting big money before they've even played one down in the NFL. If they capped these bonuses and gave the money to veteran players...? Why would the players union oppose that?

Jim Thomas: The union actually proposed a rookie wage scale that would save $200 million a year. According to the players association, they asked the owners to use $100 million of it for retired players benefits and use the other $100 million for increased pay for veteran players. But according to the union, the league said it couldn't guarantee that it would use the money as requested by the players union, so the proposal was rejected. But by the end of the day, I think there will be some form of rookie wage scale.
The players union, overall, really isn't asking for anything more. They like the current deal. It is the owners who want concessions. Not the players.

L. Adam: So by releasing Atogwe, we saved $11.5 million in payroll this season, right? Would you expect that $11.5 million to be spent on replacement veterans, or just stashed away in Mr. Kroenke's already deep pockets?

Are we asking too much for that money to be spent?

Jim Thomas: Great point. If the Rams use that money to address other positions, are even the safety position, I don't think anyone will have any complaints. I think the complaints come if that money isn't spent elsewhere.

iirishluck: Good afternoon sir

What are the chances of :
a) Plaxico our #1 WR next year
b) Rams drafting Jones (either at 14 or trading up)
c) Randy Moss our #1

Just wondering if the Plax talk is speculation or is there real interest on the part of Spags and BD.

Jim Thomas: a.) 10-90 (he's not a No. 1, not after what it is -- a couple years in prison.)
b.) 40-60 (because I don't think Jones will be there, and wonder if the Rams will be able to trade up or willing to)
c.) 20-80 (yes, there is the McDaniels tie with Moss, but do you really think Moss is a true No. 1 receiver at this stage of his career.)

AKA Rusty Shackleford: Hey Jim. IF we ever get to FA... what kind of intrest would you speculate the Rams to have in Brandon Mebane... Charles Johnson... Kiwi? Oh how great it would to swipe Mebane from the Seattle.

Jim Thomas: Could be wrong but I thought Mebane has only 3 accrued seasons which would make him a restricted free agent.

nick49: Hey Jim:
1)Would Manny Lawson be a good fit for the Rams at outside linebacker? Read where he excels at 1st and 2nd down and comes out on 3rd.

Jim Thomas: Lawson is a 3-4 linebacker, and I don't think his coverage skills would be good enough to be a 4-3 outside 'backer.

gdarby: Hello Jim,

Thanks for taking the question!

DT Barry Cofield of the New York Giants is a free agent. If and when the CBA deal is done, would the Rams have interest in him? The Spags connection is there and it seems to make sense given that most Defensive Tackles not named Ndamokung Suh take 2-3 years to develop.

Jim Thomas: Makes sense. And you can't overestimate the Spags factor.

cadet: With the many areas of need on the Rams roster and your infinite knowledge of the opcoming free agent market. What would be your plan of attack for the, coordinated draft/free agent, needs that the rams have

Jim Thomas: Obviously, it starts at WR and depends who's out there. Sidney Rice is worth a look. Malcom Floyd, Santonio Holmes. DT (Cofield, Cullen Jenkins) is a possibility. Also outside linebacker, although I haven't really studied the names there yet.

SJMAN: Just saw that Tiki Barber is returning to the game. This is from Jay Glazer. Think the Rams may have interest?

Jim Thomas: He turns 36 this spring and hasn't played since 2006. Doesn't make much sense.

COGzilla: Im not panicking like everyone else over O.J., but i would like to know what the plan is? I assume they like Dahl at ss. I think they want to give Stewart the first crack at fs...am I right?

Get rid of Butler's salary and re-sign Lewis as your cheap back-up ss.

Incognito re-signed with Miami, by the way. Not as good as Bell and Goldberg, but i guess he isnt too bad.

Jim Thomas: Not sure about Stewart getting the first crack. Let's see what happens in free agency (whenever that takes place) and the draft.
As for Incognito, too bad he couldn't control his temper in stl. There's no doubt he's a physical player and a good run blocker.

Brad: I have heard in a few articles Julio Jones is moving up draft boards. Do you see any shot that a team would decide on him over AJ Green as the #1 reciever in the draft?

How do you feel about rodgers out of oregon state as a possible later round speed back to complement SJ39?

Jim Thomas: I still think the consensus is that workout outside, Green is a more polished receiver and a better pro prospect, although Jones has narrowed the gap.
As for "Quizz" I think that's a possibility. Wouldn't that be something _ 2 Oregon State Beavers in the Stl backfield?

ramfanoncapecod: Hi Jim. I live in New England and come to St Louis once a year for a game, What do you think would be the game to see? Thanks

Jim Thomas: Let's look at the home games: Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, Washington and Philly, Baltimore and Cincy, and New Orleans. I'd say either New Orleans or Philly. Watching the Rams chase Michael Vick around for three hours might be fun, eh? Plus, it's Spags' first game against his old team _ the Eagles.

sam_crecelius: Do you think it's a co-incidence that the Rams decided not to hire Josh McDaniels' brother as QB coach, knowing that labor disputes would be coming? What I'm getting at, I guess, is that we have a situation now where someone who is very familiar with Josh's offence is not currently employed by an NFL team, and would, in theory, be free to work out with Bradford during any possible lock-out...

Jim Thomas: Nice Oliver Stone there. We'll see how that plays out. If Ben McDaniels shows up in Texas with Danario, Avery, Onbobun, etc., we'll see.

Orange County Rams Fan: Given the weakness of the draft field, does it make more sense to trade for established wide receivers?

Jim Thomas: I don't know if I'd call it a weak WR field. I think there are some second- and third-round options that could help although not the prospects on paper that Green and Jones are.

Shofar: Jim,
Some talking heads are implying the Rams have an interest in Plaxico. Shoot, I don't think they should go that route. Burris just doesn't seem to be the calibre of player the Rams should be looking at. I just think he would be a pistol to handle. Drafting a player could be a shot in the dark as well, but still, I think the Rams should be aiming higher than Plaxico. Am I way off target here?

Jim Thomas: Shoot, I think you've hit the bull's eye.

James: Are the Rams showing any interest in for UK players Derrick Locke and Randall Cobb. I feel if Jones is taken early the rams could trade down and get Cobb who should be a incredible can do all slot. I'm sure mcdaniels would love a player like Cobb. He has history throwing the ball as well. As for Locke we could get him in deeper rounds and he can catch and was the third fastest back at the combine. Your thoughts?

Jim Thomas: Don't know if the Rams are tracking these guys, but I think they both have potential. Locke didn't run as fast as maybe he thought he would at the combine, but was still one of the fastest backs there.

Football Genius: Hey J.T.
According to Rotoworld, since signing Atogwe, the Skins may not be interested in retaining Reed Doughty SS. Seems like he would be a good fit in Spag's system. Really good run defender and holds his own in pass coverage. Shouldn't break the bank and still young {28}. 184 tackles in the past 2 seasons. What do you think?

Jim Thomas: Yeah, but it does make you wonder. If Doughty's such a good player why would the Redskins let him go. (I know, I know. You can say the same for Atogwe and the Rams, although there was that not so little matter of an $8 million signing bonus with Atogwe.)

rams26: What do you think the plan is to replace Atogwe?

Jim Thomas: Nothing mystical. I'm sure they're looking at free agents. And possible draft picks. Even if they think Stewart can potentially compete for the starting job, they still need a fourth safety in the mix.

desousa209: Just heard Tiki Barber is coming out of retirement. What do you think about a S-Jax/Barber backfield??

Jim Thomas: Would've been awesome...in 2007!

desousa209: What are you odds a CBA deal gets done before the Draft?

Jim Thomas: 60-40

Ram-o-Rama: Your best gut feeling % for the deal to get done by Friday.

Jim Thomas: 40-60

Prof: All the RB discussion has concerned a back complementary to Jackson; a third-down "scatback." And I know you have questioned what Jackson might think about the Rams drafting Mark Ingram(Jr.).

But having watched Ingram at Alabama, his style -- often compared (rightly it seems to me) to Emmitt Smith -- seems distinctly different than Jackson's, although not a fast scatback. Like Smith, Ingram may be able to give you 4, 5, 6 yards ever carry rather than 2 or three followed by a 25 yard burst (sort of the Emmitt Smith vs. Barry Sanders debate). Given Jackson's age (28 at the start of the regular season) and the loss of production by age 30 that often happens to NFL running backs; and given Jackson's injury troubles; would it make sense to draft Ingram as the future running back of the Rams, pairing him with Bradford? Any chance, at all, the Rams are thinking this?

Jim Thomas: In an ideal scenario, particularly with a new pass-oriented coordinator, I would say not likely. But I do know the Rams think Ingram is a really, really good prospect.

desousa209: Which of these RB prospects do you think will fit the Rams best?

1. Hunter
2. Quizz
3. Locke
4. Vareen
5. Murrey

Jim Thomas: Interesting question. Hunter didn't catch as many passes in college as some of the other so-called "scatbacks" and doesn't have much return experience, but he is a fiesty player. Locke has the speed and big play ability, but you wonder about his durability. Murray has lots of production on his college resume, but was he really a dynamic, explosive player in college (particularly later in his college career). I guess there are plusses and minuses to them all. How's that for a copout answer?

desousa209: If at 14 you have Julio Jones, Von Miller, or Robert Quinn still available who do the Rams pick? And yes I know this won't happen but just curious who you think is the best of this bunch.

Jim Thomas: Geez, under that scenario, I might have to go Von Miller. Quinn scares me a little because he didn't play last season.

ncdc: Thanks for the chats. Did the Rams not tender Clifton Ryan, or was he not in a RFA or FA year? If they did not- why? What's going on with Ryan? Thanks!

Jim Thomas: Under the traditional rules, Ryan is scheduled for unrestricted free agency as a veteran of four accrued seasons. The Rams could've tendered him under last year's rules (6 years to be a UFA in an uncapped year), but didn't. Even though doing so is pretty much a waste of paperwork, because everyone expects the new CBA to have unrestricted free agency after 4 years, the Rams did tender Daniel Fells, Gary Gibson and Laurent Robinson, all of whom are in that 4-to-6 year no-man's land. And again, they didn't do so with Ryan. So I guess that's a pretty good hint that he doesn't fit in their plans for 2011.

Erin: If there is no football this season, how would they determine the draft order the following year or whatever year football comes back?

Jim Thomas: Please, can we worry about that in September or October??? (At the earliest.) Talk to you all next week.

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