ST. LOUIS — The legendary Mexican fish fries at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in south St. Louis will be back in person starting this month. The future for the Hispanic parish’s signature event is not as clear under sweeping proposals to downsize the Archdiocese of St. Louis, which could include closing the nearly 100-year-old church.
“I cannot imagine my life without this window at the corner,” said local historian NiNi Harris, referring to a massive stained glass window depicting God’s creation of earth. “There are just not enough adjectives to convey this church. Closing it would leave the center of community life vacant.”

Carlos Flores Ramirez, director of sacred music at St. Cecilia Catholic Church, plays a hymn on the organ while also directing the choir during a Sunday morning Spanish-language Mass at the church on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023.
The archdiocese’s “All Things New” initiative is expected to drastically alter the blueprint of the Roman Catholic church in the region in response to declining numbers of worshipers and priests. In a draft proposal released Wednesday, the 178 parishes in the archdiocese would merge into 88 “pastorates” — groups of one or more parishes that will be served by a single priest designated as pastor.
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There are three possible structures for each pastorate: a single parish with a resident pastor, two or more parishes with independent finances that share a pastoral team and staff, or two or more parishes that merge into one.
Archbishop Mitchell Rozanski will release his final plan on May 28, Pentecost Sunday. A reorganization of archdiocesan grade schools was postponed and is now expected sometime before the 2024-2025 school year.
The Catholic faithful are still digesting the new proposal for parishes, which signals a greater chance of mergers in St. Louis city and north St. Louis County while the boundaries of three dozen parishes in south and west St. Louis County and St. Charles County are unlikely to be touched. The 13 parishes at the far southern reaches of the archdiocese, in Ste. Genevieve and Perry counties, will be consolidated into four pastorates in one of the more drastic changes.
“I feel so sorry for the people in these rural communities,” said Michael Kern of Save Our St. Louis Parishes, a group that is preparing to challenge any large-scale mergers. “Their landscape will change dramatically. It’s not like they can get on a highway and get to the next town in 20 minutes.”
St. Gianna in Wentzville, the archdiocese’s newest parish, was originally slated to become a Hispanic personal parish and now appears to be merging with Immaculate Heart of Mary in New Melle despite objections from parishioners.
Feedback from priests and parish leaders last fall included the suggestion that St. Gianna “definitely not merge territory with Immaculate Heart of Mary — wrong travel pattern.”
“I think basically there’s a myth out there that the archdiocese is listening to us,” said Elisabeth Meinecke, one of the leaders of Friends of St. Gianna. “We’re growing, we’re thriving, we have all of these things going for us. Why does it make sense to change or alter our status in any way?”
Much of the chatter around the latest proposal centers on the rationale for about 40 “stand-alone” pastorates with a single parish that likely won’t experience mergers or closures:
• The smallest stand-alone pastorates include St. Margaret of Scotland in south St. Louis with an average weekend Mass attendance of 437, St. Anselm in Creve Coeur with 666, Holy Redeemer in Webster Groves with 680 and Immacolata in Richmond Heights with 719. In feedback from a listening session at Holy Redeemer last fall, “some felt that there were many cultural differences between the Kirkwood and Webster Grove parishes due to the rivalry that exists between those two cities.”
• One of largest pastorates includes St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, St. Peter and St. Robert Bellarmine with a combined 2,292 Mass attendance in St. Charles County.
• Most Sacred Heart in Eureka, a stand-alone pastorate with 857 in average attendance, borders the pastorate that combines St. Alban Roe and St. Clare of Assisi, with an attendance of 2,394.
• In north St. Louis County, Holy Spirit stands alone with attendance of 887 and borders a pastorate made up of five parishes: All Souls, Our Lady of the Presentation, St. Ann, St. Jude and St. Rita, with a combined attendance of 1,612.
The stand-alone parishes could still be affected by losing an associate priest or collaborating with other parishes on education or social justice programs “where there are opportunities to have more vibrant ministries,” said Father Chris Martin, vicar of strategic planning for the archdiocese.
Archdiocese leaders expect to make some recommendations for primary worship sites in each pastorate, but parish leaders and laity will also have the opportunity to weigh in, Martin said.
“Instead of allowing us to focus on the beautiful charisms of each parish, it pits us against each other for survival and that’s not helpful for anyone’s spirituality. It’s not helpful for evangelization,” Meinecke said. “Our goal should be more churches, more buildings.”

Servers lead the procession down the center aisle at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis after a Mass on Sunday, Feb. 5.
Early models released last fall showed St. Cecilia’s church and school would be closed because of needed repairs to the roof and two steeples, and the Hispanic parish would then share space at St. John the Baptist or Immaculate Heart of Mary in south St. Louis. Pleas for St. Cecilia’s survival came from across the city including 100 handwritten letters, the majority in Spanish.
“Please don’t kick us out for being poor, that is not what Jesus taught us!” one wrote.
St. Cecilia was built primarily by German immigrants in the Romanesque style of architect Henry Hess. It boasts an estimated 3,000 square feet of mosaics, second only to the Cathedral Basilica in St. Louis. In 2005, St. Cecilia was converted to a personal parish for the growing Hispanic community, with no geographic boundaries.

The roof on one of the two spires on St. Cecilia Catholic Church shows visible signs of needing repair on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023.
The parish is subsidized by the archdiocese, and its debt load surpassed $1.5 million last year. The crowds at St. Cecilia’s fish fries during Lent brought in $70,000 a year before the pandemic hit and the dinners were served to-go. Weddings, another revenue generator for the photogenic church, fell off the calendar for a while.
If St. Cecilia were moved to another church without the historic architecture and professional kitchen, its fundraising would be doomed, parishioners said.
“Give us a chance, and we will work hard to keep St. Cecilia open and in the black!” read another response to the archdiocese’s original proposal.

Amber Nelson performs with other dancers from Alma de Mexico during the St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926.
The archdiocese’s new map of south St. Louis shows St. Cecilia church staying open within the parish boundaries of St. Anthony of Padua and remaining a Hispanic personal parish. Parishioners are relieved for now, according to Harris, the neighborhood historian.
“We raised a lot of hell. Their feet were to the fire,” she said. “We know it may not be over, so we wait and see.”
Photos: St. Cecilia Catholic Church, a 'personal Hispanic parish' in south St. Louis
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Carlos Flores Ramirez, director of sacred music at St. Cecilia Catholic Church, plays a hymn on the organ while also directing the choir during a Sunday morning Spanish-language Mass at the church on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

St. Cecilia Catholic Church located at 5418 Louisiana Avenue in south St. Louis as seen on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. The parish is surrounded by the Dutchtown, Carondelet, Holly Hills and Mount Pleasant neighborhoods.
Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Servers lead the procession down the center aisle at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis after a Mass on Sunday, Feb. 5.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

The inside of St. Cecilia Catholic Church features many ornately decorated areas and large stain glass windows as seen on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

St. Cecilia Catholic Church choir members Yanit Uscanga, from left, Rosa Gurjosa, and Susana Carrillo wait in the choir loft for the next song to begin, during a morning mass at the church on Sunday, Feb. 5.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Leticia Pedroza prays after communion during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

The roof on one of the two spires on St. Cecilia Catholic Church shows visible signs of needing repair on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Water damage is visible next to a window during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Saturday, Jan. 28.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

People line up to get plates of tacos other Mexican food during a fiesta fundraiser in school gym at St. Cecilia Catholic Church on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Amber Nelson performs with other dancers from Alma de Mexico during the St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Karely Cruz, center left, and Gianna Aguayo perform a traditional Mexican dance during St. Cecilia Catholic Church's fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Maribel Villalvazo preps meat for tacos el pastor to be served at St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Dorres Gloria, left, and Leticia Gonzales talk as they wait in line to make their plate of tacos and other Mexican food during a fiesta fundraiser in the school gym at St. Cecilia Catholic Church on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Gaby Cornelius, center, performs with other dancers from Alma de Mexico during the St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Octavio Nieto, left, and Gaby Cornelius perform with other dancers from Alma de Mexico during the St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Amber Nelson, right, performs with other dancers from Alma de Mexico during the St. Cecilia Catholic Church fiesta fundraiser on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. The fundraiser was done to help raise money to fix the roof and steeples on the Romanesque Revival style church that was built in 1926. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

An exterior view of St. Cecilia Catholic Church in south St. Louis as seen on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Father Tim Noelker walks down the center aisle at St. Cecilia Catholic Church at the start of Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Father Tim Noelker gives a sermon at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Leticia Pedroza prays after communion during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

People attending Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church offer each other peace before communion on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

The inside of St. Cecilia Catholic Church features many ornately decorated areas and large stain glass windows as seen on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

The faithful pray after communion during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Deacon Shajir Pech, left, and Father Tim Noelker prepare communion at the alter in St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Leticia Pedroza prays during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Leticia Pedroza prays after communion during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

St. Cecilia Catholic Church, on Louisiana Avenue in south St. Louis as seen on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. The parish does not have geographic boundaries, but serves Hispanics from throughout the area.
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Hundreds of people attend the Spanish language Mass filling the pews at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Father Tim Noelker gives communion to the faithful during the Spanish language Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

A young child wanders in the center aisle as he is called back to take his seat during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com
St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis

Hundreds of people attend the Spanish language Mass filling the pews at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. Photo by David Carson, dcarson@post-dispatch.com

Dorres Gloria, left, and Leticia Gonzales talk as they wait in line to make their plate of tacos and other Mexican food during a fiesta fundraiser in the school gym at St. Cecilia Catholic Church on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023.

St. Cecilia Catholic Church, on Louisiana Avenue in south St. Louis as seen on Sunday, Feb. 5, 2023. The parish does not have geographic boundaries, but serves Hispanics from throughout the area.

Water damage is visible next to a window during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church in St. Louis on Saturday, Jan. 28.

Leticia Pedroza prays after communion during Mass at St. Cecilia Catholic Church during Mass on Saturday, Jan. 28, 2023.

St. Cecilia Catholic Church choir members Yanit Uscanga, from left, Rosa Gurjosa, and Susana Carrillo wait in the choir loft for the next song to begin, during a morning mass at the church on Sunday, Feb. 5.