JUPITER, Fla. — Cardinals staffers and their pitchers the other day talked over the intricacies and the various potentials of the three-batter minimum that pitchers, mostly relievers, must adhere to for the first time this year in Baseball 2020.
“There’s a lot of different things on the table with it,” said manager Mike Shildt Sunday.
Shildt said statistics he had seen showed that this was an issue just 4 percent of the time last season and there will be game situations when a team is up or down by three or four runs, when it won’t be a problem for a lefthanded reliever, say, to face three or four hitters, no matter what side they approach the plate.
“But we’re going to explore what it looks like and we’re being intentional about making sure there’s clarity in the plan about getting righties and lefties out. We’re going to have to adjust our thinking a little on how we use guys and how we use the rule and our skill set to the best of our ability,” said Shildt.
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For instance, Shildt agreed with the theory that it would be difficult to bring in a lefthanded specialist with nobody out in an inning. Depending to some degree on the batting order both for the other team and the pitcher’s own potential spot in his batting order, the starter might have to record an out in the inning before the manager would change him out.
The Cardinals may not have as much to worry about as some teams because their top two lefthanded relievers from last year, Andrew Miller and Tyler Webb, can retire righthanded hitters, especially Webb last season.
Webb held righthanded hitters to a .184 batting average and .679 OPS last year and lefthanders to .157 and .517, respectively. Miller limited righthanders to a .238 mark although .804 OPS and lefthanders to .211 and .667.
“That’s the key to this thing,” Shildt. “That’s where the game is going with this rule. Guys capable of getting righties and lefties out ... that’s a huge value as a reliever. And starters, too.”
After Sunday's workout, which consisted mostly of pitchers' fielding practice, Shildt and president of baseball operations John Mozeliak drove to West Palm Beach, Fla. There, they were to hook up with commissioner Rob Manfred and fly on Manfred's private jet to a meeting of Florida-based managers and executives at the new Atlanta spring training complex in Northport, Fla.
Photos: Scattered rain showers on Saturday in Jupiter for the Cardinals
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jake Woodford (40) talks with catcher catcher Julio Rodriguez (71) as they finish their bullpen session in the rain during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
A baseball sits on rain next to a rain puddled tarp covering the home plates on the practice filed during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Cardinals pitchers Adam Wainwright and Kwang-Hyun Kim throw from bullpen mounds at spring training. (Post-Dispatch photo by Laurie Skrivan)
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitchers Griffin Roberts (95) and Bryan Dobzanski (91) mirror one another as they condition during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Adam Wainwright (50) talks with catcher Jose Godoy after Wainwright threw from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals hitting coach Jeff Albert talks with outfielders Lane Thomas, left, and Harrison Bader, after they took batting practice during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
The final group of pitchers and catchers leave the field as rain pick up during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Evan Kruczynski (59) runs to escape the rain shower after finishing his bullpen session during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jake Woodford (40) finishes his bullpen session in the rain during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Then-Cardinals catching prospect Andrew Knizner takes instruction from multi-time Gold Glove winner Yadier Molina at spring training on Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla.
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Aaron Antonini. catcher scoots around in the grass wiping off his muddy shinguards after catching a bullpen session in the rain during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Rain drops accumulate on a pair of sunglasses belonging to a catcher during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitchers Matthew Liberatore (66) and Zack Thompson (80) throw loss toss during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitching coach Mike Maddux watches pitcher Alex FaGalde (93) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitching coach Mike Maddux watches pitcher Alex FaGalde (93) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitchers Matthew Liberatore (66) and Zack Thompson (80) throw loss toss during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals Tommy Edman warms up for batting practice during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jake Woodford (40) talks with catcher catcher Julio Rodriguez (71) as they finish their bullpen session in the rain during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals coach Willie McGee stretches during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jake Woodford (40) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
A baseball sits on rain next to a rain puddled tarp covering the home plates on the practice filed during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Cardinals third baseman Matt Carpenter fields a grounder at spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. (Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com)
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Jake Flaherty (22) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Akeem Bostick (73) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Carols Martinez (18) and catcher Yadier Molina (4) meet after Martinez threw from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals hitting coach Jeff Albert talks with outfielders Lane Thomas, left, and Harrison Bader, after they took batting practice during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Special assistant Chris Carpenter, left, talks with outfielder Lane Thomas during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Akeem Bostick (73) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher catcher Andrew Knizner learns from catcher Yadier Molina after catching a bullpen session during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
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Cardinals pitchers (from left) Dakota Hudson, Kwang-Hyun Kim, Carlos Martinez, Genesis Cabrera and Adam Wainwright take part in a conditioning drill on a rainy day in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Pitchers and catchers take cover in a covered area from brief scattered rain shower during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitchers Carlos Martinez (18) and Kwang-Hyun Kim (33) throw loss toss during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Carols Martinez (18) and catcher Yadier Molina (4) fist bump after Martinez threw from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Grounds crew race to cover the pitching mound of Field 3 as a rain shower picks up during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturda, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher catcher Julio Rodriguez (71) watches pitchers throw bullpen session from behind the screen during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals starting pitcher Jack Flaherty (22), left, waits out a brief rain shower with a group of pitchers and catchers during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Carols Martinez (18) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Lane Thomas concentrates on the mechanics of his swing outside the batting cages during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Cardinals infielders Matt Carpenter and Tommy Edman talk at the batting cage during a spring training workout in February. (Post-Dispatch photo by Laurie Skrivan)
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Tommy Edman (left) and Matt Carpenter prepare for batting practice at spring training. (Post-Dispatch photo by Laurie Skrivan)
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Daniel Ponce de Leon (62) throws to second during a fielding drill at St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Brad Miller stretches before taking batting practice at St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Cardinals starting pitcher Jack Flaherty throws from the bullpen mound at spring training. (Post-Dispatch photo by Laurie Skrivan)
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Daniel Ponce de Leon (62) throws from the bullpen mound during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Dakato Hudson (43) throws from the bullpen mound at St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitchers Zack Thompson (80) and Matthew Liberatore (66) talk about gloves before throwing loss toss during St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
Miles Mikolas (39) works out with pitchers and catchers on Saturday at St. Louis Cardinals spring training in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com
Rain shows during Saturday workout at Spring Training
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Dakato Hudson (43) throws from the bullpen mound at St. Louis Cardinals spring training on Saturday, Feb. 15, 2020, in Jupiter, Fla. Photo by Laurie Skrivan, lskrivan@post-dispatch.com


